Here comes the doomsday thread, sorry

[CloniesForLife]

Hopefully they go take the top 30 schools and they can go **** themselves and ISU gets in the next league with the next 30-40 power schools and we can be a power there. I've grown really excited about the Big 12 and how even the playing field is. I used to want to be in the Big10 but honestly that sounds not fun. I have zero envy of the MN, Illinois, Indianas and heck even Iowas of the world. They have almost no hope of ever winning anything meaningful

 

[Lewey24]

The more significant part of the proposed rules that no one seems to be discussing here yet is that schools would be able to directly pay players for NIL.

 

[CascadeClone]

Devil will be in the details of course.

Wonder what JP is thinking about it? He's a CPA and strategic thinker. He would have a real good idea whether this means 20 team superleague, or just the P5 having more money and money being paid to players.

Feels like the latter to me, but again, devil in the details, which are not defined yet, I think.

 

[CascadeClone]

The more significant part of the proposed rules that no one seems to be discussing here yet is that schools would be able to directly pay players for NIL.

The schools would OWN the players NIL rights, it says. Depending on how contracts are written, that could mean that you get their NIL even if they transfer somewhere else. Or you lose them if they transfer. Makes a HUGE difference.

Also, that kind of contract opens up the possibility of limiting transfers as well, sign here but you have to sit and/or lose a year if you go elsewhere. Etc.

Lots of unknowns here...

 

[BCClone]

Those numbers aren’t correct, we have more than 200 student athletes total.

Little over 400.

 

[Al_4_State]

If there was some super elite class, of which Iowa and the Kansas schools couldn't make the cut, and it became it's own division, that would be a pipe dream in my mind.

If you had the following go off into a 16 team league that was basically NFL Lite, what's left over would be freaking awesome:

WEST
USC
Oregon
Washington
Texas
Texas A&M
OU
LSU
Bama

EAST
Ohio State
Michigan
Notre Dame
FSU
Georgia
Florida
Pedo State
Clemson

Everyone else playing in the next division down. That would be fun as hell.

 

[MeanDean]

Not to go all commie/socialist here, but could the NCAA require a percentage (say 5%) of all school's NIL/atlhetic donations be collected into a pool and evenly split to participating/qualifying athletes. That would do a lot to level the playing field.

We can't be the only fans tired of Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Clemson, tOSU, Michigan, Texas, Oklahoma, Oregon etc always in the catbird seat every f'in' year.

 

[PickSix]

Do they get IPERS access?

I would think not since they still technically wouldn't be employees.

I'm sure that would be the next thing people would push for...

 

[BCClone]

I would think not since they still technically wouldn't be employees.

I'm sure that would be the next thing people would push for...

IPERS would love it.

 

[JM4CY]

What a god damn mess.

 

[cybychoice]

If there was some super elite class, of which Iowa and the Kansas schools couldn't make the cut, and it became it's own division, that would be a pipe dream in my mind.

If you had the following go off into a 16 team league that was basically NFL Lite, what's left over would be freaking awesome:

WEST
USC
Oregon
Washington
Texas
Texas A&M
OU
LSU
Bama

EAST
Ohio State
Michigan
Notre Dame
FSU
Georgia
Florida
Pedo State
Clemson

Everyone else playing in the next division down. That would be fun as hell.

I don’t know about the rest of you but I wouldn’t watch any of that super league. I believe there are more people like me than casuals who will just throw on a “top” game. The connection to your school is strong in my opinion.

 

[CoachHines3]

messy for sure

i still don't see how the P2 can break off with 20ish teams and be all that successful. to me it would get watered down quickly with the same exact teams doing the same exact thing year in and year out.

they need the others, imo.

if they want to go ahead and do that then i'd be fine being in a league with 40-50 other schools and doing our own thing. there is still value there.

 

[NorthCyd]

Do they get IPERS access?

Probably depends if they are considered full time employees, which I doubt will be the case. The university employs a lot of students. They know how to handle this situation.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Little over 400.

according to Pollard on this Christmas Card video and please purchase tickets to the bowl game we have 450 student athletes.

 

[JM4CY]

according to Pollard on this Christmas Card video and please purchase tickets to the bowl game we have 450 student athletes.

Is he counting the band?

 

[TXCyclones]

I don’t know about the rest of you but I wouldn’t watch any of that super league. I believe there are more people like me than casuals who will just throw on a “top” game. The connection to your school is strong in my opinion.

I don't think I would either. But if ESPN and Fox own the super league, would other networks carry the left-behinds? I'm wondering how that might work out. It'd be funny if it blew up ESPN/Fox.

 

[Zyklon]

Only way to fight this is apathy. Don't watch anything but ISU/Big 12. Turn off ESPN, stop clicking and consuming clickbait meant to feed the algorithm. Pick up some new hobbies so your default habit isn't scrolling through useless sports news, paying the very people who are hell bent on destroying the sport for their own profit.

I don't think I watched anyone but Iowa State this year and I can't say I miss it.

 

[1238576073jb]

This is probably ultimately for the best.

It's not like the FBS/FCS split was handed down by Moses --

There was no divisional structure at all until 1956.

"Division I" was only split between "A" and "AA" in 1978.

Having a P4 division, a G5/upper-level FCS, and lower-level FCS divisional structure is probably more reflective of the competitive realities of the sport at this point than simply two.

Dude, this not a P4 situation - this is P2, SEC & B10 - Iowa State is not going to be a part of this - this is going to be maybe 40 schools, likely less - this is going to be a very lucrative NFL farm system - under the guise of "amateurism" b/c the casual fan just sees colleges & kids & doesn't know or care about the billions of dollars being pumped thru "college" football even today

 

[MugNight]

The only equitable way to do this a promotion/relegation system. But it’s not really about on field success is it? It’s about buying your way in and pulling the ladder up behind you. The underachieving cash cows will never risk dropping out of the big boy table.

 

[Al_4_State]

I don’t know about the rest of you but I wouldn’t watch any of that super league. I believe there are more people like me than casuals who will just throw on a “top” game. The connection to your school is strong in my opinion.

I agree. I wouldn't watch it either, but I think that next division down would be an absolute hoot.