Here comes the doomsday thread, sorry
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What you'll see is the Big 12 and ACC get a couple guaranteed playoff spots, but never win the natty (like it is now).
The bottom 2/3rds of the Big 10 and SEC will have no shot either (like it is now).
This wouldn't be THAT different in practice.
If Iowa State isn't involved, I just don't give a **** when it comes to college sports. I've actually become pretty meh on the whole Iowa State thing in reality. I used to give my simple donation, buy my season tickets and have a good time at the games. Now it seems like it's just a constant barrage of how I need to give more money for this, more money for that and being told I'm not doing enough. I'm more concerned about paying for one daughter at ISU and one at Loyola than I am about giving a more money to the AD/NIL so we can keep players.
Don't get me wrong, I want ISU to succeed, but reality is, I'm already throwing a ton of money at college and I want to make sure my daughters are happy and have the resources they need before I get concerned with throwing more money at college athletics that my kids aren't involved in.
College athletics have really lost their shine since my kids have gotten older and other priorities have taken over my life. The B1G and SEC can do whatever they want and just like the last 10 years, I still won't watch many of their games.
Don't get me wrong, I want ISU to succeed, but reality is, I'm already throwing a ton of money at college and I want to make sure my daughters are happy and have the resources they need before I get concerned with throwing more money at college athletics that my kids aren't involved in.
College athletics have really lost their shine since my kids have gotten older and other priorities have taken over my life. The B1G and SEC can do whatever they want and just like the last 10 years, I still won't watch many of their games.
My only hope is they reorganize to regional divisions that would be an improvement. But like you said the rest will be the same. 6-8 teams with a chance at a championship and everyone else
Many on here are much smarter than I am when it comes to Iowa State’s finances so help me out if you can.
If you are JP, don’t you have to look at what the repercussions of not doing everything you can to get into this? You will have to spend more but not investing more in athletics in this climate could cause ripples throughout the entire university.
I don’t see how this really changes anything with the eyeballs.
We have no choice but to participate. The ramifications of being on the outside looking in are too detrimental to the university
Our poverty is exaggerated almost to the point of absurdity.
The doomsday preppers on this are worried too much. Most of the P5 programs can afford this change. Also we can talk about how NIL and pay for play will hurt viewers. The proof is the opposite. Numbers are up across the board with college football. Ironically the PAC 12 championship/ last game as a league had their highest viewership football game in conference history.
I've said the same thing before and was told bascially "if you want ISU to succeed you need to give so we can match other programs." I pay for cable/streaming, I pay for ESPN+, I pay my cyclone club donation, I pay for season football tickets, and we buy hundreds worth of merch every year for the family.
What I spend and what I'm getting isn't matching up. Yes, Iowa State is better than 20 years ago, but colelge football as a whole is still 22 players on a field. The massive expense costs fans more and more money but the product doens't ever change. What's the value-add for consumers?
I don't know why the USA hates this idea so much, but the NFL succeeds BECAUSE it has revenue sharing and salary caps. Until college football has the same thing it will continue to cost more for the same product
I think this is what will happen if they do go full Super League and just exclude everybody else. The reason I cared about Texas and Oklahoma is because they were in Iowa State’s conference and we got to play them every year. When we have a particularly good year, there are stakes to those games.
If a Super League happens, some fans of schools like Iowa St, Arizona, Minnesota, Miss St, etc will pay attention. But I guarantee that a not insignificant percent of fans of such schools will just not watch. Personally, I’ll aggressively ignore a Super Conf that breaks away and sequesters itself from the rest of CFB because they deem themselves elite.
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Yep agreed. It is an attempt for the NCAA to remain relevant imo. In a way it is laying the groundwork for a Super League in the future (establishing a new threshold for resources that would apply to top 20-25 richest programs)
Yeah I think we do need to do what we have to, to get into this higher league. It’s “only” 5% of our current annual budget to meet the minimum requirement.
Once it becomes untenable to do so (whatever a threshold would be to isolate the top 20-25 programs) then we could look at dropping down. But too many other of our peer institutions meet this specific resource threshold, that if we didn’t gain entry to this, we risk falling to a G5 level of resources
Those involved (NCAA cronies, coaches, admins, players, etc) want money, and more money, and giving up any money is not an option. And who can blame them? So those not involved pay it all and there is zero incentive to cut or even minimize costs.
Somewhat related, I had a German colleague attend a ISU FB game with me this year. They enjoyed it. Their biggest question was, "why doesnt the stadium seats have cup holders?" The answer as always was simple "the fans pay the money, they don't get (the benefit of) the money"
I personally have always said that you won’t see a super league because you cut off way to many people from watching your product so I don’t think a 20 team league will happen in the near future. It just dilutes the viewership too much
Again, you can’t compare the NFL to cfb, they are fundamentally totally different in every way except both playing football.
Schools winning at high levels in football and basketball help their enrollment as well. Baylor and TCU are prime examples of this in our own conference. (increase of 7 - 8%, known as the Flutie effect)
