ISU Student and Champion Golfer Celia Barquin Arozamena Murdered at Coldwater Golf Course

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The accused killer in CBA's murder will be tried in my hometown of Decorah, Iowa, according to the Ames Trib. A change of venue was requested by the accused's legal team, arguing that Central Iowa would not provide an impartial jury. The state proposed Webster County. For now, the trial is scheduled for SEPT 10. The Winneshiek County Courthouse does a pretty

https://www.amestrib.com/news/20190...vWFVziIQ3uDCvSOzSwCcDoNEEkLdzaxfuapCXVibvjT5c

This "legal team" can eat a bag of ****. **** them. For centuries, English common law assured trial by a jury of peers.....sometime in affluent America that turned into a jury by the dumbest, most imbecilic morons assembled by gladiatorial trial lawyers in a far away venue with guaranteed maximum travel expenses and potential for jury nullification, if applicable.
 

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What is the defense team realistically trying to argue here? It's obvious on all accounts who did it. Will they go for the insanity plea?
 

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This "legal team" can eat a bag of ****. **** them. For centuries, English common law assured trial by a jury of peers.....sometime in affluent America that turned into a jury by the dumbest, most imbecilic morons assembled by gladiatorial trial lawyers in a far away venue with guaranteed maximum travel expenses and potential for jury nullification, if applicable.

When we stop giving everyone, even the worst of us, their full due process is when all of us lose those protections, even if wrongly accused. Same for if we start letting inmates handle 'justice' for us as some have pulled for in this thread.

Let his legal team make sure that he was given everything afforded to him by the law. Will be that much less to try to appeal with down the road.
 

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When we stop giving everyone, even the worst of us, their full due process is when all of us lose those protections, even if wrongly accused. Same for if we start letting inmates handle 'justice' for us as some have pulled for in this thread.

Let his legal team make sure that he was given everything afforded to him by the law. Will be that much less to try to appeal with down the road.

Unfortunately, lawyers see the green win or lose. The judicial system is flawed in that regard as it is not incentivized. Bad lawyers allow bad people back on the streets. 'Good' lawyers get bad people off. I'm not surprised people look for 'alternative' punishment.
 
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Unfortunately, lawyers see the green win or lose. The judicial system is flawed in that regard as it is not incentivized. Bad lawyers allow bad people back on the streets. 'Good' lawyers get bad people off. I'm not surprised people look for 'alternative' punishment.

Lots of 'good' lawyers also get good people convicted too. And plenty of public defenders are good lawyers doing their best and not seeing the green either.
 

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Unfortunately, lawyers see the green win or lose. The judicial system is flawed in that regard as it is not incentivized. Bad lawyers allow bad people back on the streets. 'Good' lawyers get bad people off. I'm not surprised people look for 'alternative' punishment.

That's not 'unfortunate' at all. If lawyers didnt get paid when they lose, theyd only represent cases where it was a slam dunk that they'd win.

Good lawyers help ensure that the state reaches its burden to fully prove their case. And yes, that means that sometimes some people that probably did the crime they are accused of will get off. That's not the lawyer's 'fault', it is the state's fault for failing to have enough evidence to prove the case. That we do things this way is a good thing, because it is more important to minimize the number of cases where people are wrongly convicted (which is already unfortunately higher than it should be) than to get every criminal convicted.
 

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Looking forward to the explanation about how he got in 12 punches (or 20 in other reports) before somebody broke it up.
 

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Let's not turn this into another lawyer thread. Certainly the topic of Celia's killer getting beaten by another murderer should be compelling enough for conversation.
 
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Unfortunately, lawyers see the green win or lose. The judicial system is flawed in that regard as it is not incentivized. Bad lawyers allow bad people back on the streets. 'Good' lawyers get bad people off. I'm not surprised people look for 'alternative' punishment.

I don't know what public defenders make in Iowa, but I know a 5 year one in Colorado makes in the 60-70k range and will often have a case load above 70 without getting paid overtime. And a lot do it because it's consistent with their ideals.
 
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ah america,. where 2 mentallity hanicaped people can assualt each other and the internet loves it. too bad we didn't have cap punishment so we can enjoy there deaths too. put it on tv this board would have a thread on it

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