Lipsey and Williams, next year

[t-noah]

Good post. Does anyone remember when the injury happened? I wanna say August. If that's right, it means by the end of next year he'll 1.5 years post surgery.

Williams Suffers Achilles Injury, Will Miss 2022-23 Season - Iowa State University Athletics

Iowa State junior Jeremiah Williams suffered a left Achilles tendon injury and will miss the 2022-23 season. The injury happened in practice on Thursday.

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This article was on 10-7-22, and said it happened on, "The injury happened in practice on Thursday." So, my investigative conclusion is that his injury occurred on Thurs, 10-6-22.

Edit: He's just a little over 6 months post injury. I'm not sure when he had his surgical repair.

 

[Clonehomer]

We're going to have to get points from the paint next year. So having two pg's that can deliver the ball to the post would be a huge advantage. That would allow for the post guys to not have to be restricted to whatever side the of is running the offense from. If a guy gets position on the weak side, it's a simple pass around the perimeter and deliver the ball in at a good angle.

 

[clonebb]

If Williams can shoot the 3 consistently and all else being equal, Lipsey will be the backup. His inability to make threes hurts the team

 

[isucy86]

Not sure why a lot of people are convinced Lipsey will struggle to hit the 3 next year. He has a full off season to work on his game. IMO it is more a confidence issue than shooting form. Maybe more important is Lipsey developing a shot off his drive like Morris did with his floater. Or the ability to jump stop and shoot a free throw line jumper.

The player I will be curious from a development standpoint is Watson. He was mainly a baseline 3 and rebound shooter this season. How do the coaches approach his off-season workouts? Do they keep it simple and focus Watson on being a spot up 3 & D guy. Or do they have him spend a lot of time on his handle as well.

Lastly, our ability to play Lipsey/Williams together is not only contingent on their ability to hit 3's, but the success of the other 3 guys. Can Biliew hit around 35% of his 3's? Does ISU get a post like Bradley's Mast that can shoot the 3?

 

[t-noah]

If Williams can shoot the 3 consistently and all else being equal, Lipsey will be the backup. His inability to make threes hurts the team

I think Lipsey will be the starting PG. He's healthy and his shooting will improve this off season and next year, dramatically, I hope.

Williams will play backup PG and CG, and will likely only see 10-20' per game, which is good, due to coming off his severe injury. I hope he will have an even bigger role in'24-25, with 2 full years of recovery time.

 

[Cyforce]

If Williams can shoot the 3 consistently and all else being equal, Lipsey will be the backup. His inability to make threes hurts the team

Williams with constant shooting from 3 is no more likely than Lipsey doing the same. Check his stats.

 

[madguy30]

If Williams can shoot the 3 consistently and all else being equal, Lipsey will be the backup. His inability to make threes hurts the team

Lipsey will improve. Book it.

 

[cyclonehomer]

Williams with constant shooting from 3 is no more likely than Lipsey doing the same. Check his stats.

Williams did shoot okay from deep his freshman year and had a nagging shoulder injury his sophomore year, so IMO he's a bit more likely.

You're right though that him being a sniper or something is about as likely as Lipsey, IE pretty much all depending on the work they put in this off-season. I'm not banking on either being great shooters next year, but I do have faith in improvement there, especially from Tamin.

 

[cyclonehomer]

Lipsey will improve. Book it.

Agreed. For God's sake, he brought it up on his own in the post-game after Pitt. He's a really hard worker and I'm sure he's already been putting time in.

 

[Cyforce]

Williams did shoot okay from deep his freshman year and had a nagging shoulder injury his sophomore year, so IMO he's a bit more likely.

You're right though that him being a sniper or something is about as likely as Lipsey, IE pretty much all depending on the work they put in this off-season. I'm not banking on either being great shooters next year, but I do have faith in improvement there, especially from Tamin.

Most this board will disagree with .231 being OK from deep.

 

[cyclonehomer]

Most this board will disagree with .231 being OK from deep.

Jeremiah Williams College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

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"freshman"

32% isn't great but it's not THAT bad, especially for this ISU roster if he could hit at that clip.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Lipsey named a finalist for national freshman of the year (among 25 finalists). Definitely a great first season for Tamin!

 

[CyCloned]

We're going to have to get points from the paint next year. So having two pg's that can deliver the ball to the post would be a huge advantage. That would allow for the post guys to not have to be restricted to whatever side the of is running the offense from. If a guy gets position on the weak side, it's a simple pass around the perimeter and deliver the ball in at a good angle.

Having guards that can shoot will help some, but having post players that can make a 6-10 foot shot would help a lot. Tre was the only inside player that was decent at the midrange shots. Shoon was okay at the beginning of the year, and then fell off for some reason. Jones has to have a layup, and even then it was dicy.

 

[Final42b]

Lipsey named a finalist for national freshman of the year (among 25 finalists). Definitely a great first season for Tamin!

That can’t be some guys on here say he sucks and shouldn’t play.

 

[Clonehomer]

That can’t be some guys on here say he sucks and shouldn’t play.

Those are the people who should be on your ignore list

 

[isucy86]

Williams with constant shooting from 3 is no more likely than Lipsey doing the same. Check his stats.

What do they say with stocks- past performance is no guarantee of future results. Same can also be said of basketball players and shooting the 3. When Brockington came to Ames he was a career 27% shooter at Penn State and shot 36% at ISU.

Guys can improve and there is a history of guys improving after transferring to ISU.

 

[Clone95]

What do they say with stocks- past performance is no guarantee of future results. Same can also be said of basketball players and shooting the 3. When Brockington came to Ames he was a career 27% shooter at Penn State and shot 36% at ISU.

Guys can improve and there is a history of guys improving after transferring to ISU.

Holmes, too

 

[Statefan10]

Williams with constant shooting from 3 is no more likely than Lipsey doing the same. Check his stats.

Williams has been a better shooter than Tamin so far

 

[allfourcy]

Not sure why a lot of people are convinced Lipsey will struggle to hit the 3 next year. He has a full off season to work on his game. IMO it is more a confidence issue than shooting form. Maybe more important is Lipsey developing a shot off his drive like Morris did with his floater. Or the ability to jump stop and shoot a free throw line jumper.

The player I will be curious from a development standpoint is Watson. He was mainly a baseline 3 and rebound shooter this season. How do the coaches approach his off-season workouts? Do they keep it simple and focus Watson on being a spot up 3 & D guy. Or do they have him spend a lot of time on his handle as well.

Lastly, our ability to play Lipsey/Williams together is not only contingent on their ability to hit 3's, but the success of the other 3 guys. Can Biliew hit around 35% of his 3's? Does ISU get a post like Bradley's Mast that can shoot the 3?

Not necessarily alot of threes but a good midrange jump shot would help too. Watch Tyger Campbell tonight do that off the screen and hit the 12 fter. Can't Lipsey become as good as him, or am I dreaming?

 

[Mick Mars]

Some guys just have “it” and Lipsey is in that group- he will improve enough to be a threat to make 2 a game which is the key- as long as the scouting report says he’s a threat and you can’t play 8’ off of him like this year it will stretch the defense and help the spacing. He’ll improve because he knows what he needs to do and will put the work in. He’s a winner.