you guys are talking about how weak Big 12 football is without CU and NU. Haven't you guys been watching college football the last 5 years? The Big 12 has been the second toughest league with no thanks to NU. Last year was the exception. KU, Mizzou, Tech, OSU, Texas, and OU have all been good on a NATIONAL level. The Big 10 is the league that is underperforming on the field, losing to MAC teams and never putting together winning bowl records. Remember 2007 when the Big 12 had 3 legit BCS teams but Mizzou got screwed out of a bid? Great show guys, but don't downplay the Big 12, it has been a great league, even without NU being very good.