***Official 2024 Transfer Thread***

Jer

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Hurley or Oats are probably the perfect personalities for the role. One has to remember that Kentucky is in the Top 2-3 all time in about every winning category (# wins, win %, # of titles, etc). They have high standards and it was clear Calipari wasn't going to get them there - hell, the amount of talent that went through that place is absolutely insane to think about with how little they actually accomplished.

A program builder, culture guy like TJ, Drew, etc aren't necessarily built for those flashy jobs - it's not a perfect match skill-to-need or personality-to-role.

Oats has the narcissism and self grandeur to do well there. If he had more recent success in the postseason, Pearl would likely be on their list. Donovan could certainly be a possibility, though not sure any coach not in the college ranks wants to get into the college ranks right now.
 

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Hurley or Oats are probably the perfect personalities for the role. One has to remember that Kentucky is in the Top 2-3 all time in about every winning category (# wins, win %, # of titles, etc). They have high standards and it was clear Calipari wasn't going to get them there - hell, the amount of talent that went through that place is absolutely insane to think about with how little they actually accomplished.

A program builder, culture guy like TJ, Drew, etc aren't necessarily built for those flashy jobs - it's not a perfect match skill-to-need or personality-to-role.

Oats has the narcissism and self grandeur to do well there. If he had more recent success in the postseason, Pearl would likely be on their list. Donovan could certainly be a possibility, though not sure any coach not in the college ranks wants to get into the college ranks right now.
Seems like the perfect recruiting for a place like that would be taking the best multiyear transfers every year along with the best unlikely to be one and done freshmen.
 

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Hurley or Oats are probably the perfect personalities for the role. One has to remember that Kentucky is in the Top 2-3 all time in about every winning category (# wins, win %, # of titles, etc). They have high standards and it was clear Calipari wasn't going to get them there - hell, the amount of talent that went through that place is absolutely insane to think about with how little they actually accomplished.

A program builder, culture guy like TJ, Drew, etc aren't necessarily built for those flashy jobs - it's not a perfect match skill-to-need or personality-to-role.

Oats has the narcissism and self grandeur to do well there. If he had more recent success in the postseason, Pearl would likely be on their list. Donovan could certainly be a possibility, though not sure any coach not in the college ranks wants to get into the college ranks right now.

NBA coaches are used to dealing with free agency and money/lockerroom dynamics.

It’s like asking a NBA coach to coach a roster not subject to the same cap as 90% of the NBA, and guys getting $800k instead of $50 million
 

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This seems like a lot of hyperbole. If Kentucky hires Drew and Tang replaces him, that’s huge ripples across college basketball? If Oats leaves Alabama, that’s a huge ripple?
I’m just trying to figure out “huge ripples”.
 

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With our latest transfer signings, how does 7' 1" JT Rock fit in? Seems like a lot of size in the center bodes well for a deep run to the final four and championship. Waiting for this next season is gonna take FOREVER!
 

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I’m just trying to figure out “huge ripples”.
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With our latest transfer signings, how does 7' 1" JT Rock fit in? Seems like a lot of size in the center bodes well for a deep run to the final four and championship. Waiting for this next season is gonna take FOREVER!
My (mostly uninformed) take is that even though the college game seems to be reverting back to the dominate center game, we've also seen those teams lose if they don't have a strong supporting cast (Edey last year, Garza, etc.) That may be to our advantage with our guard play, and although JT will get his feet wet next year you may be setting yourself up for disappointment if you are expecting him to bang with 23-24 year olds of similar height.
 

isucy86

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With our latest transfer signings, how does 7' 1" JT Rock fit in? Seems like a lot of size in the center bodes well for a deep run to the final four and championship. Waiting for this next season is gonna take FOREVER!

I think the message is consistent across positions- the best will play. A kid like Hadley going from CU to Iowa State probably feels confident he will get minutes.

Guys like Heise and Chatfield are jumping up a level or two in competition. I can't believe they have the expectation they will be handed 20+mpg, but they will get them if they earn them. We have seen that proven true with TJ. No sacred cows;)

It has to be fun for the staff, because they can be like mad scientists this summer coming up with crazy lineups that will create mismatches. Having that much length and athleticism also enables them to tweak our defense. Aka Do they look at running some half court zone trap out of a 1-3-1?
 

CyPunch

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This seems like a lot of hyperbole. If Kentucky hires Drew and Tang replaces him, that’s huge ripples across college basketball? If Oats leaves Alabama, that’s a huge ripple?

In the scenario you just laid out, yes.

If Billy Donovan, Jay Wright or Will Wade get the job? No.
 
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MJ271

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Then someone goes to Bama, someone fills in the spot that one leaves behind, etc. That's the huge ripple they're talking about.
The funny thing about the ripple of moves overall is that it was started by SMU, who let go a coach that went from 10-22 his first season to 20-13 his second season. SMU hired Enfield away from USC, who hired Musselman away from Arkansas, who is hiring Calipari.

Rather than guys at smaller schools moving up, it's kind of a ripple of coaches moving backwards from more prestigious programs at which they underperformed hopes/expecations to somewhat less prestigious programs, despite none of them getting fired.
 

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NBA coaches are used to dealing with free agency and money/lockerroom dynamics.

It’s like asking a NBA coach to coach a roster not subject to the same cap as 90% of the NBA, and guys getting $800k instead of $50 million

There’s never been an NBA (or any other pro sports league) season where 100% of players are unrestricted free agents. Even one season of that is crazy, let alone the status quo of having that every year.

Imagine the Pacers being 45 days away from having to sign Haliburton again when they just signed him.
 
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