Official Big 12 Wrestling Championships
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I think I found the answer; went to ncaa.com wr allocations and at large qualifiers. They won't announce it until March 10th.
Ok maybe im not a very informed cyclone fan when it comes to football coaches release status, but everything else in that was correct and you know it. Just go back and read the last few pages.
Riiiight. If you really believe that there is not 'real' competition in the Big Ten, then I am guessing you hang out in the basketball forums and only venture onto this one when there is a big meet or tournament, just waving the school flag.
This is one of those things that just perplexes you as a sports fan. ISU wrestling just rolls along, and then for whatever reason, in the really big close pressure-packed situations, two or three guys (who are normally solid) wrestle down. It happened a couple of years ago at nationals, it seems to happen in the Iowa match over the past couple of years, it happened last year and this year in the Big 12 conference tourney finals. Maybe a couple of guys wrestle up, but it isn't enough to make up the lost points.
It's like some invisible wall that you just can't get through. Somehow, Iowa knows how to break down that wall. Cael Sanderson couldn't figure out how to break it down for the team (obviously he know how to do it as a wrestler). Hopefully Jackson can get the team past whatever it is that blocks them.
It's like some invisible wall that you just can't get through. Somehow, Iowa knows how to break down that wall. Cael Sanderson couldn't figure out how to break it down for the team (obviously he know how to do it as a wrestler). Hopefully Jackson can get the team past whatever it is that blocks them.
Just got back from the tournament. I read some posts and for those of you that want to blame Ward, in my opinion you have every right to. Everything that has been a problem with him this year showed up in a big way today. Unaggressive counter-wrestling was the best I could describe it. His success goes with his explosiveness and aggression and he put none of it on display today and took home a well-deserved last place. Ward is the wrestler on I want to succeed the most, but he is just flat-out frustrating!! More athleticism in his little toe than in most of the other wrestlers out there, but just can't get him to cut it loose. Has to be frustrating for KJ.
Disappointed in Long but I think he will have a good nationals. Same with Reader, when he loses a match, that is how he usually loses.
It's tough to watch them choke away a title, which was a staple under Sanderson, but I still firmly believe KJ is a better coach than Cael. We were the best team there and the Big XII title should be in Ames tonight, I'm bitter but I hope we come jacked up for Nationals....that means you WARD, I know you can do this, let it go at Nationals!!!! I honestly believe he can get top 5 if he lets it go.
Disappointed in Long but I think he will have a good nationals. Same with Reader, when he loses a match, that is how he usually loses.
It's tough to watch them choke away a title, which was a staple under Sanderson, but I still firmly believe KJ is a better coach than Cael. We were the best team there and the Big XII title should be in Ames tonight, I'm bitter but I hope we come jacked up for Nationals....that means you WARD, I know you can do this, let it go at Nationals!!!! I honestly believe he can get top 5 if he lets it go.
What? The only title we choked away out of the three Big XIIs he won was last year when we essentially had a nearly identical tournament.
Fact is ISU got hot during a few down years for OSU and greatly benefitted from it.
I think you've already been berated enough by cyclonefanatic posters, but just to add to, I would say the Big 10 is atleast as good as the Big 12, and to be honest, I would say they are better. I enjoy Hawkeye bashing as much as the next true-blooded cyclone fan, but got to give credit where credit is due: Iowa Wrestling is Dominant....yep, I just threw up in my mouth a bit....
I didn't read the first 29 pages of this, but as a wrestling season ticket holder, I'm going to guess I have a little more perspective on this than 95% of the posters here.
Yes it sucks that we had a couple guys get beat that should have, but this team isn't even really competitive at 2 of the 10 weights (and I'd argue 3). That's huge ground to give up. We were able to make that disappear in duals because we got so many more bonus points this year. In the individual brackets, it's more difficult to make those points back up.
No matter what, this team should learn from Saturdays results and come back firing on all cylinders in 2 weeks.
Yes it sucks that we had a couple guys get beat that should have, but this team isn't even really competitive at 2 of the 10 weights (and I'd argue 3). That's huge ground to give up. We were able to make that disappear in duals because we got so many more bonus points this year. In the individual brackets, it's more difficult to make those points back up.
No matter what, this team should learn from Saturdays results and come back firing on all cylinders in 2 weeks.
90% of iowa fans will tell you that Iowa has no real competition in the big 10 this year. that will change next year as penn state and Minn will be very solid. This year outside of Iowa who is obviously the best the Big 12 top to bottom is much tougher. One of my good friends is an Iowa fan and is at the Big 10's this weekend and his comment was, "The big 12's would be a much better tournament to watch this Year, the rest of the big 10 really isnt that good this year, a larger percent of poor wrestlers."
It shouldnt be taken as duragatory. its a fact this year. The big 10 was suspected to be down this year as Michigans best wrestler redshirted, as well as a pair from Northwestern. The big 10 will be much more solid as a "whole" next year. When Minn Dietchler? got denied eligibility it really hurt MInn as a team. And Schlatters inability to stay healthy. And penn state just isnt that great this year....they are loading up for the years to come. And that may be one team I hope Iowa always puts a whipping on.
Again, as another poster pointed out, the Big 10 has three teams in the top five.
Also, it's pretty unfair to say that the Big 12 is better "top to bottom" when they only have five schools (compared to 11 in the Big 10).
I think I'd take Iowa, OSU, Minn, Wisc, IU/PSU over ISU, OSU, OU, Mizzou, Neb
So I guess I didn't take your comments as duragatory...just wrong.
The Big 5 tournament was a great tournament...from a standpoint of the rankings going head to head, very, very good. I dont think any true wrestling fan would deny that at all. However, the poster that said there was nothing at the Big Tens and that it was a cake walk for Iowa...
Iowa has 8 of its 10 wrestlers ranked inside WIN's top 8 rankings at each class, which if that finished on paper, is 8 all americans. I agree that the firepower top to bottom in the Big Ten this year is not super stacked, then again there are six teams ranked in the top 13 I think, last I looked.
I dont see this as being any room for anti ISU or anti Iowa because of their teams...and the leagues they are in. Still the best two leagues, still great athletes at the tournaments, and great wrestling. As for the B10 next year, it will be closer no doubt...Iowa loses quite a bit..I am interested to see how they fill the holes. Same for ISU
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why choose to use the number 5 here Jon and not 11 on your side of the debate???
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I should let that pass, but I can't resist. Somehow == combining 2 schools' best wrestlers together. Win and build from there.
