Molina won't go anywhere, but I agree about Wong, he was an awesome defensive player.
MLB: ****Official STL Cardinals 2021 Thread (ARENADO trade)****
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Molina won't go anywhere, but I agree about Wong, he was an awesome defensive player.
never mind - figured it out! Stayed up late last night reading analysis of the trade. Awesome get for Cards, and doesn't appear on the surface that they are giving up much to get him. Rockies look like they want to dump the salary.
Pumped to finally get Nolan, seems like he's been rumored to be coming to STL for about 3 years. Only negative is it may be a sign that Wong is gone. As of now lineup would probably look like:
2B Edman
SS Pauly D
1B Goldy
3B Arenado
LF Carlson
RF Fowler
C Yadi
CF Bader
Wish they could go back and throw some of the Carp money at Wong. Crazy how quick Matt fell off the cliff. Can't wait to get that 18.5 mil off the books.
2B Edman
SS Pauly D
1B Goldy
3B Arenado
LF Carlson
RF Fowler
C Yadi
CF Bader
Wish they could go back and throw some of the Carp money at Wong. Crazy how quick Matt fell off the cliff. Can't wait to get that 18.5 mil off the books.
https://www.stltoday.com/sports/bas...cle_3aed8c09-da5d-51d7-9ff5-14052b36d9d6.html
STL Post Dispatch coverage of the trade as well as Waino/Molina details, for those interested.
STL Post Dispatch coverage of the trade as well as Waino/Molina details, for those interested.
Yes. It's been crazy how fast Matt C dropped off. He never seemed like the kind of hitter to have that happen since he was a high OB, AVG, and doubles guy. But man, something broke with him 3 years ago and he has never recovered.
My hope with Wong is that 1) he likes it enough in STL to maybe play for a little less than other teams are offering, and 2) he sees a real winning team now with Nolan on the roster. However, I won't blame him one bit if he takes a better deal somewhere else. I would be disappointed to not have him on the team, though.
honestly, I am not too upset about Wong. Great defense obviously, but offense was spotty and Cards need offense. Plug Edman into 2B, sit Carp on the bench, and hope Carlson has a great offensive sophomore year. Oh, and trade one of our surplus catchers for another platoon bat or maybe an outfield replacement for Fowler.
I don't know know all the details, but he has definitely alienated Arenado in recent years.
While Wong's defense is elite, an infield of Goldy, Edman, Dejong, and Arenado should still be elite defensively.
Totally agree, if I'm choosing between the two, I probably take Wong but Edman is also a pretty solid glove and is more consistent offensively. Not at all upset about him at 2B.
Considering how many accommodations he had to make with the contract for the trade to happen in the first place, I don’t think that’s a huge problem.
The only minor issue I see is that Torres was the only real OF prospect remaining in the system—outside of Carlson—and he would have eventually slotted nicely in RF.
OTOH, the team now has three or four good 3B prospects to either slide to other positions, or use as eventual trade bait. Assuming Arenado stays, of course.
When I looked last night, his 2019 split stats said he hit .277 with 20 homers on the road. I’ll take .277 with 40 homers on the season, plus that gold glove defense.
It’s like getting Scott Rolen all over again!
I always liked Carp but it is over.
BTW, the players The Athletic mentioned as possibilities in exchange were LHP Austin Gomber, #9 prospect Jhon Torres, a rangy RF prospect with power and a big arm, and #23 Luken Baker, a hefty (6’4” 280) 1B prospect with a ton of potential power.
I’d really prefer not to find out Gorman or Liberatore were part of the package as well.
I’d really prefer not to find out Gorman or Liberatore were part of the package as well.
The Rockies' owners have had a reputation for years of being in the game for revenue it brings, not necessarily to win.
Great trade for the Cards. NA is one of the top five players in the game and he'll love STL. Rockies fans have to be stunned.
I get the Voit disappointment, but honestly without that trade, we don’t have Gallegos and probably not Goldy. I’m good with what we have.
