Eh, I know lots of Cyclones who bet this game. That spread was easy money for anyone who follows this team closely.
Prohm Defenders
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Eh, I know lots of Cyclones who bet this game. That spread was easy money for anyone who follows this team closely.
1. Can CyTwins, et al, still use the , "It's their Superbowl" excuse next year when JorBo is gone?
2. And Nunge put up a double-double playing only 19 minutes !!!
3. Fran is 4-2 and his kid is guaranteed to graduate with a winning record vs us.
2. And Nunge put up a double-double playing only 19 minutes !!!
3. Fran is 4-2 and his kid is guaranteed to graduate with a winning record vs us.
Yep. Some people have built up a myth in their head about Prohm as a great recruiter. That is quite an exaggeration. In reality he has landed some good players but has been very inconsistent. For instance, last years class was a failure where we missed on three out of four high school recruits and the fourth is a role player. That missed class has really set the program back.
Consistently making the tourney, top half of the conference.
I'd align it along football where it's to a place where getting to a bowl and top half of the conference are the general expectation.
Maybe have a down year here and there and have a year like this year in football occasionally too where things align right.
For a P5/P6 program, that shouldn't be too much.
Watching us try to box out EUI last night was very frustrating. They continually moved us around where ever they wanted. We have to be the weakest team in D1 basketball(with the possible exception of Solo). Do I remember correctly, did CSP bring in a buddy of his to be the strength and conditioning coach during the past offseason? If so another fail and waste of money.
His coaching abilities are clearly lacking. He brings way more negatives than positives to the table. He was handed an excellent program by the previous coach and ran it into the ground. He compares more closely to McDermott than our better coaches like Hoiberg, Floyd, and Eustachy.
Prohm is a good to better than good recruiter. But until he hires an assistant to run all the x's & o's we will never be good. He might be the worst in the country at actual basketball coaching. Again, last night, 5 second call on a BLOB play out of a timeout. Inexcusable. Have we ever scored on an out of bounds play? Have we ever tried? I rarely even see a play happening?
And until he demands our players play defense and rebound or they don't play, we won't be good. Zero effort on that end. I will say Harris looked promising on that end last night. But in all 3 games, our guards allowing dribble penetration over and over against subpar talent is ridiculous, Players should be benched. Close outs are too slow, help side rotation is too slow. It is just effort stuff. That is what is frustrating. I get that we are young and new, but effort can still be there.
Unfortunately those 2 things aren't going to happen, so he will continue to be a subpar coach with pretty good talent.
And until he demands our players play defense and rebound or they don't play, we won't be good. Zero effort on that end. I will say Harris looked promising on that end last night. But in all 3 games, our guards allowing dribble penetration over and over against subpar talent is ridiculous, Players should be benched. Close outs are too slow, help side rotation is too slow. It is just effort stuff. That is what is frustrating. I get that we are young and new, but effort can still be there.
Unfortunately those 2 things aren't going to happen, so he will continue to be a subpar coach with pretty good talent.
Worse yet, ISU isn’t really developing the players that do stick around. Guys either transfer (Lewis) or they regress to the point where it looks like they need a redshirt (Conditt).
McDermott is a much better coach than Prohm...and probably Floyd and Hoiberg as well. Eustachy was the best coach we have had.
100% this. What other evidence do people want to see?
If you take out Garza and line up Iowa player for player, they aren’t more talented than we are. It’s that Fran puts in a system where they actually play together and thrive. When has Prohm done that?? Never.
I didn't come away last night with the impression that Solo is strong.
I am pretty close with a recent player's brother and unfortunately this is not exactly true.
I will say I was honestly pretty happy with how we played last night. That said we still lost by almost 30. Iowa is really good but that is still not an acceptable point to be in.
I really think there is some revisionist history with McDermott. He was here four years. He was never good and he was bad all four years. Prohm does have the advantage of the three better years but those three teams had at least 4 NBA players on them. The key though why Prohm is going to leave it worse is because his down years are going to be worse. It also leaves the impression that only Fred can make us successful.
I see a lot more facts than pitchforks in this thread. Do you really think this is about the loss to Iowa? That was expected all week. It’s more about the loss to South Dakota State. And Florida A&M. And Milwaukee. And a trend towards a 3rd terrible conference record in 4 years. But sure, let’s talk pluses and minuses. What are his pluses that translate into wins? Let’s talk about this post.
I personally always love it when my dead weight co-workers get to sit around making all sorts of money while doing a crap job and killing the name of our company. The message any coach should get is that being on the wrong end of multiple records is not acceptable.
It's best to accept that we're going to have losing records for the rest of Prohm's stay in Ames. He would have changed his staff up awhile ago if he was at all capable of being aware of his short comings. He's not, so he didn't. Enjoy the tire fire folks.
A college coach’s job is to win games. A G League coaches job is to get guys into the league.
