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Well. Chucking the ball in a tantrum is ridiculous too.
Well she’s the only reason a bunch of people started watching women’s basketball so I guess rules of the game should not be applied to her? Iowa’s men’s team does the constant more subtle delay of game move by constantly whacking the ball after they score so they can set up their press.
 
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Refs were awful all the way around, didn't really affect one team more than the other IMO. Except maybe for that 'T'. That was ridiculous.
That’s funny. She’s got the ball and the official is right in front of her. Rather than give the official the ball she chucks it behind the back away from the official and out of bounds.

She’s an incredible player, but she is constantly showing up officials and opponents (see Louisville game).

But not surprising that the dumb media in this state like to ignore this. When you have the media trot out the “Kirk is a good man” nonsense, it isn’t surprising.
 

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Clark‘s behind the back pass intentionally thrown away from referees. Not gonna fault the referees for throwing the T. Thin Skinned Refs? Maybe. But they had enough of Clark’s antics. Clark CHOSE to pitch the ball. Referees responded with a correct ruling according to the rules. Clark could have avoided the T with a better attitude.
 

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Why would the NCAA want to intentionally screw the biggest star in WBB out of winning a championship? I keep seeing people say(not all Hawk fans) that the game was not reffed fairly towards both ends and that "you know why" they wouldn't want Clark to be a national champion, which is why the game was fixed for LSU.

But I actually do not know why. At all. I'm beyond confused. Someone help.

Iowa loses to South Carolina if their coach wasn't so bullish on playing their size. Iowa packed it in and took Boston out of the game but she continued to force the same lineup out there yielding the same terrible result. Bluder coached circles around her Friday night both defensively and offensively.
 

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LSU knew how to stop the pick and roll.
Agreed. LSU was a million times better at stopping penetration compared to South Carolina. Clark was mostly forced to shoot 3s. She hit quite a few, but they're a different team when she can't go downhill and hit her teammates for open layups or threes.
 

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Why would the NCAA want to intentionally screw the biggest star in WBB out of winning a championship? I keep seeing people say(not all Hawk fans) that the game was not reffed fairly towards both ends and that "you know why" they wouldn't want Clark to be a national champion, which is why the game was fixed for LSU.

But I actually do not know why. At all. I'm beyond confused. Someone help.
Creates a massive redemption story for her next year. ESPN can spin this Iowa team for an entire year about their hunt for a natty.
 
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I thought the refs were poor all around - over-officiating like others have said. Both teams had some calls go against them that probably shouldn't have. The Clark technical might tip the scales into the refs being just a little worse for Iowa, but we'd be talking about a difference of couple of points... not 17.

The irony is that anyone who has watched a decent amount of women's hoops this year knows and understands that officiating in women's hoops isn't great. Color me shocked that the tavern hok t-shirt fans didn't know this...
 

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Iowa's strategy against South Carolina and LSU was the same --

-- we're smaller but more skilled/better shooters/have the ur-shooter of women's basketball
-- pack it in and make them shoot over us/crash the defensive glass to give ourselves a chance
-- South Carolina responded to this by playing an extremely ugly form of basketball where they would miss outside shots and hope to score in the scrum for offensive rebounds (which they often pulled down because they were bigger and stronger than Iowa's posts) or to draw a foul on putting back putbacks
-- South Carolina hung with Iowa but, in the end, Clark making three is better than a post making two
-- they tried the same thing against LSU, but LSU made its outside shots, game over

I don't think the officiating was great, but you when your game plan is allowing so many open threes and just hoping the other team doesn't make them and they make them... then that is on you.

LSU is much more balanced offensively than SC.
 

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That’s funny. She’s got the ball and the official is right in front of her. Rather than give the official the ball she chucks it behind the back away from the official and out of bounds.

She’s an incredible player, but she is constantly showing up officials and opponents (see Louisville game).

But not surprising that the dumb media in this state like to ignore this. When you have the media trot out the “Kirk is a good man” nonsense, it isn’t surprising.
Looked to me like more of a swat than her "chucking" the ball. Opinions are going to vary but if the refs are going to go letter-of-the-law on that then they should be consistently letter-of-the-law on other things. I'm guessing there's something in the rule book about a coach roaming on the court and making contact with a ref while the game is in play. Be consistent.
 
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My favorite shot of the whole game was there was about a minute left in the game and Clark took almost a half court shot like there was one second left.
 

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Looked to me like more of a swat than her "chucking" the ball. Opinions are going to vary but if the refs are going to go letter-of-the-law on that then they should be consistently letter-of-the-law on other things. I'm guessing there's something in the rule book about a coach roaming on the court and making contact with a ref while the game is in play. Be consistent.

She's been doing this for years... Is it right? Absolutely not but teams have been dealing with this for a long time.
 

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The officiating in the game was bad for both teams. The Iowa fans that are still complaining clearly don't understand basketball and they definitely don't understand how flawed Iowa's roster was. Clark covered up a lot of deficiencies most games because she was that damn good.
 

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LSU knew how to stop the pick and roll.

Iowa had 85 against LSU and 77 against South Carolina.

I'm not sure the number of possessions between the two games, but the LSU game did feel "faster." Both of them were 40-minute games, though, so the per 100s were probably pretty similar.

The problem wasn't Iowa scoring. The problem was they didn't stop LSU very much.

South Carolina would chuck up a jumper, brick it, and maybe score on the offensive boards.

LSU would just drill the three.

It is hard to win when you allow that much shooting to go uncontested and the other team makes it. Sometimes playing off weak shooters works (see the ISU/Pitt game). Sometimes it bites you.
 

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Well. Chucking the ball in a tantrum is ridiculous too.

I didn't see it that way at all. That was a bad call, no bones about it. But the idea that something was working against Clark in some major way is just patently false. She's the biggest start in CBB, men's or women's, bar none, and of course they would have loved her to get a championship.
 

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I didn't watch any of the game so this is an honest question. Were the refs terrible both ways? Because I see that Iowa ended up with just one more foul than LSU.
I thought these were some of the worst refs I've seen in a long long time...both ways. They didn't win the game for LSU by any means but they were bad
 

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LSU is much more balanced offensively than SC.

Their game against Iowa was the only South Carolina game I watched this season but, wow, for a team that was #1 and undefeated, their lack of skill and creativity on offense was shocking.

Their entire offense was just being bigger/stronger and bullying Iowa on the offensive boards. I don't know if they played like that against LSU and during the SEC season, but it was tough to watch.

You'd figure the #1 team like that would be dominant and versatile on both ends of the court so they are difficult to game plan against and can handle just about anything that opponents might throw at them, like UConn (#3 offense, #9 defense, #1 overall on Torvik). South Carolina just wanted a rebounding contest.
 

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Yeah, I can't figure out why the Academy continually screws me out of the Nobel Prize for Astronomy. It's like they don't even have the category just to keep stargazers like me in our place.

Must be some kind of Hateful Grudge.

 

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