The Big 12 AD meeting Thursday night

[Clark]

But don't they have suspicions and start to do some digging?? If the Houston Chronicle reporter can find out through his sources, how the hell doesn't the Big12 commissioner not have better sources...

Well unless Bob Bowlsby has sources in the Texas A&M athletic department, he's not going to be able to get the same scoop.

The only reason this was brought to light at all was because A&M is going to do everything in their power to make sure Texas doesn't join the SEC.

 

[Clonehomer]

But don't they have suspicions and start to do some digging?? If the Houston Chronicle reporter can find out through his sources, how the hell doesn't the Big12 commissioner not have better sources...

Cause the Houston Chronicle is being fed this by A&M. They are leaking to put some attention on it and see if they can get help in preventing it. It's not like the Houston Chronicle reporter stumbled upon this on their own.

 

[alarson]

My point is why are we blaming UT and OU? The CEO of the conference didn't know this was going down? He failed at his job then

I mean, bowlsby sucks, but at the same time a commish can only do what his members give him the power to do. Texas and OU limit that power.

 

[DurangoCy]

Will be curious if TX and OU will be there, I haven’t seen if they are confirmed to attend. If not, speaks volumes

Since they haven't denied it, I would assume that tells the other 8 all we need to know.

 

[theshadow]

The meeting should include Bowlsby and he should present what he knows and his thoughts and recommendations. He should then be dropped from the meeting and the schools discuss amongst themselves. Bowlsby has lost most of his power now and should NOT be given any at this time.

The Big 12 commish doesn't have unilateral powers. He's at the mercy of the university presidents.

 

[Lewey24]

 

[Cyched]

 

[DurangoCy]

Let's just do it already.

I would also accept **** Off for Kansas, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest, Syracuse, Rutgers, or Duke. However, since 5 of those schools are already in conferences, they'll probably be ok.

	Pac-12	Big 10		B12
1​	Arizona	Penn State		Iowa State	B10
2​	Arizona State	Michigan State		West Virginia	ACC
3​	Cal	Michigan		Oklahoma State	Pac 12
4​	Stanford	Ohio State		Kansas	B10
5​	USC	Maryland		Kansas State	Pac 12
6​	UCLA	Rutgers		TCU	Pac 12
7​	Colorado	Indiana		Texas Tech	Pac 12
8​	Utah	Purdue		Baylor	**** Off
9​	Washington	Northwestern
10​	Washington State	Illinois
11​	Oregon State	Wisconsin
12​	Oregon	Minnesota
13​	Oklahoma State	Iowa
14​	Kansas State	Nebraska
15​	TCU	Iowa State
16​	Texas Tech	Kansas
	SEC	ACC
1​	Florida	Clemson
2​	Georgia	Notre Dame
3​	Missouri	Miami
4​	Kentucky	UNC
5​	Tennessee	NC State
6​	South Carolina	Boston College
7​	Vanderbilt	Pittsburgh
8​	Alabama	Virginia Tech
9​	Texas A&M	Virginia
10​	Auburn	Wake Forest
11​	LSU	Georgia Tech
12​	Ole Miss	Louisville
13​	Arkansas	Florida State
14​	Mississippi State	Duke
15​	Texas	Syracuse
16​	Oklahoma	West Virginia

 

[clonedude]

Will all the pro-NIL people on here still think it was a good idea if it basically ends ISU football as we know it?

I have to admit that I couldn't make up my mind at the time if NIL was a good thing or not? I was basically 50/50 on it. Saw about just as many positives as negatives.

But over the last week or two, I've really swung to the side that it's really going to mess everything up.

 

[cyballrulz93]

Let's just do it already.

I would also accept **** Off for Kansas, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest, Syracuse, Rutgers, or Duke. However, since 5 of those schools are already in conferences, they'll probably be ok.

	Pac-12	Big 10		B12
1​	Arizona	Penn State		Iowa State	B10
2​	Arizona State	Michigan State		West Virginia	ACC
3​	Cal	Michigan		Oklahoma State	Pac 12
4​	Stanford	Ohio State		Kansas	B10
5​	USC	Maryland		Kansas State	Pac 12
6​	UCLA	Rutgers		TCU	Pac 12
7​	Colorado	Indiana		Texas Tech	Pac 12
8​	Utah	Purdue		Baylor	**** Off
9​	Washington	Northwestern
10​	Washington State	Illinois
11​	Oregon State	Wisconsin
12​	Oregon	Minnesota
13​	Oklahoma State	Iowa
14​	Kansas State	Nebraska
15​	TCU	Iowa State
16​	Texas Tech	Kansas
	SEC	ACC
1​	Florida	Clemson
2​	Georgia	Notre Dame
3​	Missouri	Miami
4​	Kentucky	UNC
5​	Tennessee	NC State
6​	South Carolina	Boston College
7​	Vanderbilt	Pittsburgh
8​	Alabama	Virginia Tech
9​	Texas A&M	Virginia
10​	Auburn	Wake Forest
11​	LSU	Georgia Tech
12​	Ole Miss	Louisville
13​	Arkansas	Florida State
14​	Mississippi State	Duke
15​	Texas	Syracuse
16​	Oklahoma	West Virginia

This all makes perfect sense. Which is exactly why it will never happen.

 

[Cyched]

Will all the pro-NIL people on here still think it was a good idea if it basically ends ISU football as we know it?

I have to admit that I couldn't make up my mind at the time if NIL was a good thing or not? I was basically 50/50 on it. Saw about just as many positives as negatives.

But over the last week or two, I've really swung to the side that it's really going to mess everything up.

I generally supported is as the right thing for the players. A little uneasy about how it would help the haves vs. the have nots.

Didn't foresee **** hitting the fan this quickly though.

 

[Cyched]

 

[alarson]

Welp

 

[ItsCyence]

Welp

 

[theshadow]

Welp

This isn't surprising. If I pissed a bunch of people off, the last thing I'd want to do is be in a meeting or on a conference call with them.

 

[jsb]

Will all the pro-NIL people on here still think it was a good idea if it basically ends ISU football as we know it?

I have to admit that I couldn't make up my mind at the time if NIL was a good thing or not? I was basically 50/50 on it. Saw about just as many positives as negatives.

But over the last week or two, I've really swung to the side that it's really going to mess everything up.

There were podcasts on here about how great the NIL crap was.

Now, I think it was the right thing to do. But it'll **** Iowa State over.

 

[jsb]

This isn't surprising. If I pissed a bunch of people off, the last thing I'd want to do is be in a meeting or on a conference call with them.

No ****. But this means they aren't even considering using it as a negotiation.

 

[isucy86]

But don't they have suspicions and start to do some digging?? If the Houston Chronicle reporter can find out through his sources, how the hell doesn't the Big12 commissioner not have better sources...

I don't think this was as much the Houston Chronicle as someone within the SEC included in the secretive discussions decided to leak.

Why would an SEC person leak to Bowlsby? He isn't going to go public as his first move.

 

[CentexCyclone]

What I hope comes out of this is some strategic partnerships. Something like ISU partnering with Kansas to try to get into the Big Ten, or ISU partnering with Kansas, Oklahoma State, and Texas Tech or Kansas State to get into the Pac-12.

Would much prefer the B1G option. I really, really, really do not want to get caught up with the Pac 12 if we can help it. Loooooong road trips, odd rivalries, worst per school TV revenue in the P5. Seems like a marriage of convenience, aren't we leaving that in the Big 12?

 

[CentexCyclone]

i'd hope JP and whoever is the headmaster at KU are eating some runzas right now plotting

Yes, and the IA and KS Govs and Legislators. They all need to start singing out the same hymnal soon about why ISU and KU to the B1G is the greatest thing for college football since Knute Rockne invented the forward pass.