Is this an issue if they would have won by 20 last night? Does anyone know what the suspension was really for? The thing is, Mac has changed who he is because of the players leaving the program, to call him "scared" is an understatement. I think every day he wakes up asking himself who is going to leave this program today, I think he needs to be gone as something is not working and since I am not a player I do not know what that is, but do not underestimate what the loss of these top players has done to his mind.
Playing Colvin - Mac's biggest mistake
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Yes, but at the same time, if this same situation happened over in Iowa City, this board would be ripping the decision and talking about how cowardly and desperate the move was.
Remember this line the great Lloyd Bridges uttered from "Airplane"?
"Looked like I picked the wrong time to quit smoking (or "give up drinking").
13 days ago he still had Lucca and Boozer. You are arguing semantics. Gmac should have handled his suspension announcement a little differently, no doubt about that.
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You do a damn good job Jon, you are paid to voice your opinion and do so.Enter player #1 that I did not name in an earlier thread but who I had in mind
If you are going to argue this with numbers, you should at least include the one that means the most - the score. There is a reason that most NBA box scores contain the +/- column. How the team does when you are on the court is the most important stat. For the game last night, you can get the numbers manually by reviewing the summary on the TT site.
Reviewing the +/- play-by-play stats show that Colvin ended up with a net zero in terms of game score in the minutes that he played. He was minus 7 in the first half and plus 7 in the 2nd half. Certainly not great, but decent when you consider the situation that he was thrown into and the fact that the team lost by 7.
Without checking all of the other numbers, I'm pretty sure that he might have been the only player on the team who didn't end up with a negative contribution. I did check Buckley for comparison and he ended up with a minus 9.
So have a lot of people. To me this is nothing. He suspended him, he can end the suspension anytime he wants. I never took Mac's statement as a PROMISE to me.
And we are talking about a bad attitude problem for god's sake. Not the cess-pool of criminal, legal, and life problems that plague the Hawks. For goodness sake, Lick has said that the kid with the clearly almost deadly alcohol problem will probably be back this year.
I purely made the Chizik reference in the fact that he made a big splash with his quotes when Colvin was suspended. Then turned around a few weeks later and went back on them using a team vote as an attempt to not take heat for going back on his strong words. That burns me. While ISU hasn't been the most successful program in athletics due to our abundance of integrity and willingness to do things the right way, it is one of the things that makes me proud to be a Cyclone fan. I felt like that honor, that integrity, that sets us apart from other programs took a hit by how this was handled. That type of thing really lights a fire for me because we have shown that we are better then that.
And again, it was a bad attitude. It wasn't like the kid was arrested or drank himself almost to death.
Huge mistake for Mac's credibility that he didn't suspend Colvin indefinitely so he wouldn't have to go back on his word, and that is exactly what he's done no matter how people try to spin it. It looks very bad and now he's lost the integrity card to play if this is another bad season.
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I bet this is the last time that McDermott sets a date publicly for a suspension to end! Always leave yourself a way out without making yourself look desperate.:wideeyed:
Perhaps with the fans...Definitely not with the players. Which one would you choose?
I don't recall Mac ever saying that" there would be no circumstances in which the suspension could be altered". Out given.
Let me ask this, and the way some of you are talking it really sounds like it .... but had Feb 1 rolled around and CC was still acting like a punk, is GMac honor bound to allow him back on simply because he set a date? Simply because he didn't say "indefinitely". After all, if we're nit-picking over the simple issue of a date... we probably have to work both sides of the date, don't we?
The date was for CC's benefit. Not Gmac's. And sure as hell not for you or I.
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Actually, RossHallHero says "coward".
You have absolutely no idea what you are blathering on about and make no sense at all.
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That's where you are wrong. Through your comments you are implying Gmac caved, can't be trusted to keep his word. That hurts the program.
I have to agree with DaddyMac on this. Why all the "moral" outrage over this. Colvin broke team rules. If the team was okay with his return, then why should you or anyone else be outraged over it.
I think it shows Gmac has a lot of respect for his players to go to them and give them the opportunity to give input on lifting the suspension or keeping it in place. I have no doubts that if the players would have said keep it in place, Colvin would have remained suspended.
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While you are at it, please ask the Moral One Deace how he can defend his Michigan head football coach who was knowingly breaking the rules of practice time limits because "everyone else is doing it" and "it's a stupid rule anyway" but can trash a coach for lifting a suspension that HE put in place????
