Playing Colvin - Mac's biggest mistake

[RoseClone]

I understand what you are saying. But let me ask this then......what else is okay? Should we bring Pomlee back? Should we cheat with recruiting? Should we get the boosters to pay the players somehow?

GMac compromised his integrity and most on here are apparently okay with it because he was just trying to win......something that he specifically said would make him walk away from the profession. So why stop with this? Let's comprise all the "rules" for next year and make it to the NCAA, because winning is all that really counts, right?

You are making this something that it is not. Holy cow man, Mac shortened a suspension that he put in place. He decided how long it was to be and he can decide if he wants to change it without losing "integrity" in my eyes because it's not an integrity issue. Very few of us are privy to the information needed to make the decision.

Personally, it didn't matter one bit to me if Mac did or did not end the suspension. I wouldn't be bashing him either way because I don't think it is that big of a deal either way.

Mac broke no rules, he didn't cheat, Colvin broke no laws. Suggesting this is similiar to, or leads to, cheating in recruiting and paying players is a stretch of monumental proportions. You and many others are taking this to a level it doesn't belong - it blows my mind.

 

[kg-cyclone]

Who said it did? I was simply saying ISU might as well do a few other things, so that ISU could make it to the NCAA.......I was referring to the tournament, since apparently winning is all that really matters. After all, that is what we are paying GMac for, correct? How ISU gets there should not matter.

You did, in regards to cheating...I'm simply saying there is reasons for worrying or being frustrated with the program, which is understandable. I lose patience with stupid...

 

[Dryburn]

You are making this something that it is not. Holy cow man, Mac shortened a suspension that he put in place. He decided how long it was to be and he can decide if he wants to change it without losing "integrity" in my eyes because it's not an integrity issue. Very few of us are privy to the information needed to make the decision.

Personally, it didn't matter one bit to me if Mac did or did not end the suspension. I wouldn't be bashing him either way because I don't think it is that big of a deal either way.

Mac broke no rules, he didn't cheat, Colvin broke no laws. Suggesting this is similiar to, or leads to, cheating in recruiting and paying players is a stretch of monumental proportions. You and many others are taking this to a level it doesn't belong - it blows my mind.

That's okay. It blows my mind that so many here are okay with what GMac did, and just act like it is no big deal, and not a problem at all.

He has made it very clear who is running this program. It is clear that the players, especially the stars like CB are in charge, and he is not. That explains a lot of what is happening in terms of performance on the floor too. Apparently, most of you are okay with the state the program is in right now.

 

[cyatheart]

Love all these posts implying that all of a sudden Greg is the devil and has no integrity. Spend some time with the guy. He is a straight shooter and what he says on these call in shows is what he means. When he says he struggled with it and it was a hard decision, that is what he meant, there is no hidden agenda, he is telling us all he can. He is an honest guy, more honest than pretty much anyone I know. Attack the coaching if you want, say he may have made a mistake playing Colvin, that is fine. To extrapolate that into some major integrity or character flaw is not justified.

 

[Dryburn]

You did, in regards to cheating...I'm simply saying there is reasons for worrying or being frustrated with the program, which is understandable. I lose patience with stupid...

Great, now you want to make insults. Such class.

 

[Final42b]

That's okay. It blows my mind that so many here are okay with what GMac did, and just act like it is no big deal, and not a problem at all.

He has made it very clear who is running this program. It is clear that the players, especially the stars like CB are in charge, and he is not. That explains a lot of what is happening in terms of performance on the floor too. Apparently, most of you are okay with the state the program is in right now.

thats what i like about him, he lets the players voice their opinion which in turn helps the team to bond and will give them chemistry. This is a team, not a dictatorship. We are in america.

 

[RoseClone]

That's okay. It blows my mind that so many here are okay with what GMac did, and just act like it is no big deal, and not a problem at all.

He has made it very clear who is running this program. It is clear that the players, especially the stars like CB are in charge, and he is not. That explains a lot of what is happening in terms of performance on the floor too. Apparently, most of you are okay with the state the program is in right now.

Not really. Never did I say I was okay with the state of the program.

I thought we were talking about Mac and Colvin - That doesn't bother me one way or the other. And, you suggesting it could lead to cheating or paying players is way over the top - and moronic.

 

[Final42b]

Great, now you want to make insults. Such class.

dude kg knows more about this team than youll ever know

 

[RossHallHero]

He is an honest guy, more honest than pretty much anyone I know.

Was he honest when he said this:

I got in this profession because I love to coach basketball, and I love to help young people grow. If winning ever gets in the way of that, then I have to get out of it. If it costs me a couple wins along the way, then so be it.

 

[gocubs2118]

That's okay. It blows my mind that so many here are okay with what GMac did, and just act like it is no big deal, and not a problem at all.

He has made it very clear who is running this program. It is clear that the players, especially the stars like CB are in charge, and he is not. That explains a lot of what is happening in terms of performance on the floor too. Apparently, most of you are okay with the state the program is in right now.

Ya you are right, all of us just love to lose

 

[Final42b]

Was he honest when he said this:

I got in this profession because I love to coach basketball, and I love to help young people grow. If winning ever gets in the way of that, then I have to get out of it. If it costs me a couple wins along the way, then so be it.

man get over that quote every time you talk, you bring up that quote. If you truly hate Mac now go be a fan of another team.

 

[RossHallHero]

thats what i like about him, he lets the players voice their opinion which in turn helps the team to bond and will give them chemistry. This is a team, not a dictatorship. We are in america.

HAHA!

Our teams sure have had some great chemistry during the Mac era.

Great, great chemistry...a staple of Mac teams.

Leaders spilling out all over the floor, low defections, no internal fighting and just as many wins as you'd expect for a team with such great chemistry.

Sports teams are not democracies, at least the good ones.

 

[RossHallHero]

man get over that quote every time you talk, you bring up that quote. If you truly hate Mac now go be a fan of another team.

It's a pretty embarrassing quote, isn't it?

I was here before him and I'll be here after he leaves.

It's him who's brought down the integrity of the program and that matters to me. Mix in a bad W/L record and you've got the worst of both worlds.

 

[Tre4ISU]

It's a pretty embarrassing quote, isn't it?

Honestly anything you put on here is kind of embarrassing. Quote or not.

 

[Final42b]

It's a pretty embarrassing quote, isn't it?

Im sure youve never changed your mind on anything before...
Just go support lick, hes an "honest" guy and we all know he needs the fans

 

[Final42b]

Honestly anything you put on here is kind of embarrassing. Quote or not.

+1

 

[IcSyU]

It's a pretty embarrassing quote, isn't it?

I was here before him and I'll be here after he leaves.

It's him who's brought down the integrity of the program and that matters to me. Mix in a bad W/L record and you've got the worst of both worlds.

You were so much better of a poster when you were on vacation.

 

[Dryburn]

Not really. Never did I say I was okay with the state of the program.

I thought we were talking about Mac and Colvin - That doesn't bother me one way or the other. And, you suggesting it could lead to cheating or paying players is way over the top - and moronic.

Gee, thanks for suggesting I am a moron. I never said it could lead to cheating or paying players.......I was asking.......why not? GMac apparently (in his own words) is willing to go against things he believes in, so what else can be done? Maybe I used some bad examples, but how about say bringing Pomlee back, since we need bodies. Also, with all this going on.......what happens when the next player steps out of line? What if 2 or 3 players do something that warrants suspension?

 

[RossHallHero]

Im sure youve never changed your mind on anything before...

Oh, he changed his mind all right.

The quote now should be:

I got into this profession because I love to coach basketball. I'm not here to help young people grow. Nothing gets in the way of winning and if I ever let it, then I have to get out of coaching. I'm not gonna let integrity cost me a couple of games.

 

[Dryburn]

dude kg knows more about this team than youll ever know

You may be correct, but you have absolutely, positively no way of knowing that for sure....dude.