How to "start over"?

isunomad

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My more realistic list:

Dave Rose
Lon Kruger
Greg Gard
Keno Davis


The cancer thing with Rose is tough. Gard has never left the state of Wisconsin (Bo Ryan assistant for life). I'd think he'd just wait out Ryan and become the head guy at Wisconsin in 5 years. I don't see Keno leaving Providence after only a year. Kruger would be a great get; the guy has won everywhere he's been in college (K State, Florida, Illinois, UNLV). Age (57) would be the only issue. . . My guess is that JP will hire a coach that is a great fit that we are all overlooking. Much like Rhoads.
 

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None of these are real options except for Stan heath to me but he is building something at USF right now. Why would any of these coaches leave for ISU?

Obviously, this is idle speculation since we currently do not have an opening. However, you never know until you make the call. You also have to sell your opportunity. My thoughts:

Wright - the true dream on the list...probably not gettin him.

Stallings - You think ISU's budget is bad? Only two schools in the SEC really care about BB...UK and Arkansas...for everyone else it is a filler between the end of FB and the start of baseball.

Sendek - Arizona State is not passionate about BB and unless you are UCLA you get lost on the west coast.

Bennett - biggest issue is he just went to UVa but again...a school not really passionate for BB competing in a conference where some schools virually care about nothing else.

Oliver Pernell - been at Clemson a while...maybe a little underappreciated...again a school not really passionate for BB competing in a conference where some schools virually care about nothing else.

Belein - biggest issue is he just went to Michigan but BB is always going to be second fiddle at Michigan.

Seth Greenburg - see Pernell...same story.

Scott Drew - Baylor has a week budget itself, they are not passionate about BB and they get lost in the shuffle in the Texas sports scene.

Heath - Tampa is a pro town. Athletic budget there? He left Kent State after one year and went to Arkansas which is a pressure cooker for BB. He did pretty good at Arkansas but expectations are high and it is a tough place to learn on the job.
 

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Obviously, this is idle speculation since we currently do not have an opening. However, you never know until you make the call. You also have to sell your opportunity. My thoughts:

Wright - the true dream on the list...probably not gettin him.

Stallings - You think ISU's budget is bad? Only two schools in the SEC really care about BB...UK and Arkansas...for everyone else it is a filler between the end of FB and the start of baseball.

Sendek - Arizona State is not passionate about BB and unless you are UCLA you get lost on the west coast.

Bennett - biggest issue is he just went to UVa but again...a school not really passionate for BB competing in a conference where some schools virually care about nothing else.

Oliver Pernell - been at Clemson a while...maybe a little underappreciated...again a school not really passionate for BB competing in a conference where some schools virually care about nothing else.

Belein - biggest issue is he just went to Michigan but BB is always going to be second fiddle at Michigan.

Seth Greenburg - see Pernell...same story.

Scott Drew - Baylor has a week budget itself, they are not passionate about BB and they get lost in the shuffle in the Texas sports scene.

Heath - Tampa is a pro town. Athletic budget there? He left Kent State after one year and went to Arkansas which is a pressure cooker for BB. He did pretty good at Arkansas but expectations are high and it is a tough place to learn on the job.

Stallings, Sendek, and Beilein look like the best choices on that list to me.

Although I still believe that this is a moot point, and that Mac can get it done, it's an interesting discussion.

I agree that Wright would be a likely total home run, but he is coaching the #2 team in the country.
 

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Here would be my list of coaches to contact if a change were being made...in order of preference:
1) Jay Wright - Villanova (hey, we can dream big...can't we?)
2) Kevin Stallings - Vanderbilt
3) Herb Sendek - Az State
4) Tony Bennett - Virginia
5) Oliver Pernell - Clemson
6) John Belein - Michigan
7) Seth Greenburg - Va Tech
8) Scott Drew - Baylor
9) Stan Heath - USF

Nice to see an actual wish-list. There are a ton of threads calling to oust GMac and get somebody who can "do the job" but without even saying coaches they think might spark their interest.

It's jumping the gun to think about prospects because none of us know if/when there'll be a change — and none of us are in position to make any moves, anyway. Think of it as if you were the AD and considering a change —*which coaches would you most want to land?
 

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Pernell is interesting he has a solid history of building / rebuilding programs.

They just took Majerus' plane away at St Louis so he's under appreciated too. If you don't believe it just ask him. :goofy:
 

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I'd say that buying a video on the fundamentals of basketball and making Mac watch it would be a good start. Hope the segments on boxing out and free throw shooting wouldn't be way over the top for him. You might as well pause the video when it comes to zone defense and backside help defense because I'm sure that would be way too much to understand.
 

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I'd say that buying a video on the fundamentals of basketball and making Mac watch it would be a good start. Hope the segments on boxing out and free throw shooting wouldn't be way over the top for him. You might as well pause the video when it comes to zone defense and backside help defense because I'm sure that would be way too much to understand.
Maybe you should watch these...:skeptical: or give me the link of yours...?

Greg McDermott 2-Pack - BasketballCoach.com
 

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Obviously, this is idle speculation since we currently do not have an opening. However, you never know until you make the call. You also have to sell your opportunity. My thoughts:

Wright - the true dream on the list...probably not gettin him.

Stallings - You think ISU's budget is bad? Only two schools in the SEC really care about BB...UK and Arkansas...for everyone else it is a filler between the end of FB and the start of baseball.

Sendek - Arizona State is not passionate about BB and unless you are UCLA you get lost on the west coast.

Bennett - biggest issue is he just went to UVa but again...a school not really passionate for BB competing in a conference where some schools virually care about nothing else.

Oliver Pernell - been at Clemson a while...maybe a little underappreciated...again a school not really passionate for BB competing in a conference where some schools virually care about nothing else.

Belein - biggest issue is he just went to Michigan but BB is always going to be second fiddle at Michigan.

Seth Greenburg - see Pernell...same story.

Scott Drew - Baylor has a week budget itself, they are not passionate about BB and they get lost in the shuffle in the Texas sports scene.

Heath - Tampa is a pro town. Athletic budget there? He left Kent State after one year and went to Arkansas which is a pressure cooker for BB. He did pretty good at Arkansas but expectations are high and it is a tough place to learn on the job.

Sheesh, where to start. This is the list from GMac's biggest critic??

Heath - the guy was a mid major coach who bombed at ARK and now he's in trouble with the NCAA at South Florida. yeah, what a winner.

Scott Drew - he's so dirty, even Memphis was reluctant to go after him.

Seth Greenburg - doubt he has any interest in leaving after VT just built him a $21M practice facility.

Beleilen - coach of the nation's most disappointing team. 2 NBA players and they won't make the tourney...sound familiar? plus he just signed an extension.

Bennett - UVA doesn't care about hoops? They had a donor build them a $160M new arena. UVA is desperate for hoops success, hence hiring bennett. he's not leaving anytime soon.

Stallings - it took him 5 years to make the tourney, and he's only done it 3 times in ten years. not sure how that helps us - although he seems like a good guy. And in regards to the SEC - Tennessee doesn't care about hoops? FL? Heck Georgia, Alabama, and LSU have recently hired new coaches, and Miss st and Ole Miss aren't too shabby either.

Jay Wright - we'd have a better chance hiring Phil Jackson

Sendek - hmm let's see, should I live in Tempe AZ or Ames, IA.

Oliver Purnell? I don't know, but it also took him 5 years to get to the tourney. He's your best idea, I'll give you that...

My list? Haven't looked into it, I'm not an AD. But I'm in favor of a young assistant from a big time school with serious recruiting chops and ncaa tourney experience. I'm not interested in mid major retreads or 57 yr old coaches already making 1.5M per year (Kruger).
 

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Dalonte Hill before someone else picks him up. I doubt we'd lose any transfers and we'd most likely pick up some immediate help.
 

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Looks to me like the Big 12 requires a super motivator among other things for the coach. Just look around. That is why Dana Altman is at Creighton and KSU.
 

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Sorry I'll save the 69.99 and buy Calipari's motion offense any day of the week. By the way, wait til the end of this season and you could pick Mac's up for 19.95 through Billy Mays. Oh wait, he died. Probably watching Mac's set offense.
John Calipari: The Definitive Dribble Drive Motion Offense - BasketballCoach.com

Cheaper (Cheater) is not always better...?:wink:

Still waiting on your best seller to come out:

"How to effectively use a cross face and sit out escape on the hardwood"
 
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Yeah, you're right...Johnny Orr would never leave his very prominent Michigan Wolverines in the prestigious Big Ten to take a job at sorry ISU...

Different situation. Supposedly Johnny left Michigan because of the money ISU was willing to pay. Doubt that is the same scenario now.
 

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Yeah, you're right...Johnny Orr would never leave his very prominent Michigan Wolverines in the prestigious Big Ten to take a job at sorry ISU...

Exactly. The AD has to sell the job to a great candidate...should there be an opening.
 

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Different situation. Supposedly Johnny left Michigan because of the money ISU was willing to pay. Doubt that is the same scenario now.

Did you read the book about Johnny...I have and my copy is autographed by both the writer and Johnny...but I digress...certainly, money was important but the other thing was that he did not feel appreciated at Michigan.
 

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Did you read the book about Johnny...I have and my copy is autographed by both the writer and Johnny...but I digress...certainly, money was important but the other thing was that he did not feel appreciated at Michigan.

This point is key. Orr had a couple of disappointing years after getting to the "76 title game (including losing to NC-Charlotte in the NCAA's after being ranked #1). Michigan was not interested in matching our offer, and virtually encouraged him to leave.
How could we find that scenario again?