I agree with you - the MWC and CUSA have coaches we should look at. Don't know if Rose would leave a program like BYU for us, but, the worst they can say is "no thanks."
How to "start over"?
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I agree with you - the MWC and CUSA have coaches we should look at. Don't know if Rose would leave a program like BYU for us, but, the worst they can say is "no thanks."
Your right, we were I think he was a big guy too. Too many rhyming names. :smile:
Good choice for any program looking for a Men's Basketball Coach; however, Dave Rose has been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4268107
Pancreatic cancer is not one of the cancer's you want either. You only have a 37% chance of living more than 3 years. However, that may be good for our fan base because we usually want to fire a coach after Year 3.
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Gonzaga was a very, very obscure program when Stockton played, nothing like it is now. And far, far away from any "BCS" levels.
And, Marquette was in Conference USA when Horn coached there. Again, as I said, both coaches had zero BCS connections.
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Yeah, the people who excuse the ridiculous 3 years of extensions seem to think there is no way to write a contract that distinguishes between major and minor violations (which is plainly incorrect of course).
I seriously wonder if there was some kind of mistake made in writing the contract. I can't believe Pollard could have possibly thought it was a good idea to give him one-year for each individual violation. Possibly it was meant to be one-year overall and they f-ed up writing and reviewing it... or it was only supposed to be for major violations and Gmac's agent snuck one past JP and his people. I mean think about it.... if Rashon, Jessan, and Ross also drove the wrong cars he would have 3 more years worth of extensions and a 12-yr contract?
The whole thing is just ridiculous, right down to the concept at its core: rewarding a new coach with contract extensions based on issues with the previous coaching staff, rather than based on the coach and his teams success. Its just crazy.
True but Patrick Swayze was fully recovered to and went back to work on his t.v. series. Then boom it comes back-up and you're dead. Pancreatic cancer is maybe the nastiest cancer of them all.
Was there any documentation or any quotes from physicians that Swayze was "fully recovered?" I also read that, but I thought that just came from his people.
Just wondering...
Patrick Swayze called his recovery a "miracle" in People magazine on July 21st, 2008: Patrick Swayze Calls His Recovery a 'Miracle' - Health, Patrick Swayze : People.com and on September 14th, 2009 he was dead.
Yes, there are exceptions, Howland being one. Scott Drew is another. I'm sure you can find a few more. However, the majority of successful major conference coaches have major conference experience in their past.
And I wouldn't brag on Horn just jet. He had a good season last year, but it is not going quite as well for him this year, as he is already within two losses of his entire total for last year.
Should a vacancy occur at ISU, I just don't see ISU as being able to handle bringing in another coach who needs two or three years to figure out major conference MBB.
How to start over? Get a good candidate(s) in mind for HC in 2010-11 right now: I think we could get this guy at a reasonable price:
Doug Wojcik
If we are looking, I hope the AD is taking notice of this guy:
Can you say Todd Lickliter?
How do you know we would be waiting another 4 years? I thought the exact same thing when Chizik bailed on us and forced us to start over yet again.
Enter Paul Rhoads.........
I don't think our expectations were as high for football as they would be for basketball.
Tulsa has a good basketball program at this point. When Memphis was top ranked in the country....Tulsa was the only squad in the CUSA that played with them... this guy is a good coach.
Butler is....in what, the Horizon league? I hold that the CUSA has much better coaching talent than the Horizon.
Exactly. Its harder to turn a football program around than a basketball program. And Rhoads did it in one year. While a coaching change is never something you want to do, there is no reason to assume it will take years and years for someone to get us turned around in bball.
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I agree, but that program was alreayd built up. Just like Butler, just like Gonzaga, the list goes on and on of programs that just needed a good guy to take over and keep it on the right path. Dont be mistaken these are good coaches, but it takes a totaly differnt type of coach to build and maintain a program, than just maintain. I really think if a change is made ISU needs a coach with name req and a coach that will get national attention.
We'll be starting all over again next year, regardless of who the coach is. The question you have to ask yourself is, would I rather start over with a guy who has failed in his first four years, or start over with a fresh face with new ideas?
Considering we're about to go 4-12 in conference again, I'll take door #2.
Considering we're about to go 4-12 in conference again, I'll take door #2.
Wrong, Tulsa was coming off of 9 wins the season before Doug Wojcik was hired. He is a huge prospect right now.....should be for us especially.
I think the best solution is to change personnel but I understand that financial constraints might prevent it. If we can't do the best thing we should still do something.
When our neighbor to the west had issues with their football program they took an interim approach to firing the head coach. They brought back a storied solid individual to serve as AD and mentor the struggling coach. When they did make the change at coach having Osborne in the AD's office gave the program a certain stability that would not have been there without him at the helm. It seems to have worked out well for them.
If we cannot make a change at coach then we should at least consider this approach. The role would not have to be AD and could be a special consultant. The title doesn't matter as much as the role and the person. I think they should be as much a Cyclone as Osborne is a Husker. They should have high credibility with fans, players, and press.
When our neighbor to the west had issues with their football program they took an interim approach to firing the head coach. They brought back a storied solid individual to serve as AD and mentor the struggling coach. When they did make the change at coach having Osborne in the AD's office gave the program a certain stability that would not have been there without him at the helm. It seems to have worked out well for them.
If we cannot make a change at coach then we should at least consider this approach. The role would not have to be AD and could be a special consultant. The title doesn't matter as much as the role and the person. I think they should be as much a Cyclone as Osborne is a Husker. They should have high credibility with fans, players, and press.
You hear this alot. And I know it's true. However, we also cannot afford to have what is happening in Carver Arena, happen at Hilton. Lots of empty seats equals lots of lost money. We simply cannot allow our situation to get to the point Iowa is at.
