Death to Cyclone Alley!

[CycloneRulzzz]

Also... what's with the incredibly lame cyclone alley stuff we've had during the timeouts? Who can keep a couple balloons up the longest? Who can make a pedometer count up the most with their head the most times? Dumb.

thank god I'm not the only one. These are lame and every student section from the Izzone to the Cameron Crazies would be laughing at us.

 

[fanaticagain]

Also... what's with the incredibly lame cyclone alley stuff we've had during the timeouts? Who can keep a couple balloons up the longest? Who can make a pedometer count up the most with their head the most times? Dumb.

Sounds like the CAC has been been watching Minute to Win It.

 

[CYNWIA]

the time out activities are so dumb... cyclone alley definitely needs to go... It's probably not going anywhere though, because it's an effective way for the university to tame the students by letting lame-o dweebs run the chants and control the students... and it's also a good way for the people that run SALC to feel relavent, when they really aren't

 

[yoteforever]

It's a Sunday 1 p.m. tip against a bad opponent, did you expect a jam packed frenzied Hilton?

Phog Allen would be packed. Freddie is going to get this job done. I have posted in the past before, for the most part, ISU fans are fickle. They'll back a winner but throw anyone/anything else under the bus.

I f I was Pollard, I would abolish Cyclone Alley except for the 200 that came today. Ticket sales for students are down from 2400 to 1700. WTF?

 

[wxman1]

So basically we have a bunch of people that can come up with countless reasons why CA is stupid and should be gotten rid of and one person that is in love with it...yup seems like a good reason to keep it.

All I can say is dude open your eyes and stop coming up with excuses look at what we are saying there are reasons we are saying it. If you are involved with SALC or CAC get over yourself and make changes if you don't want to be ridiculed.

 

[IcSyU]

Ticket sales for students are down from 2400 to 1700. WTF?

This would be a direct result of the basketball team sucking and everyone knowing we're going to be Iowa-bad this year.

Keep in mind...I'm a senior at Iowa State right now and I was born in 1989. Hoiberg has NO pull with most college students.

 

[CycloneErik]

See, I don't believe for a minute that we'll be Iowa-bad this year. We're not showing anything that indicates such a thing.

 

[alarson]

Phog Allen would be packed. Freddie is going to get this job done. I have posted in the past before, for the most part, ISU fans are fickle. They'll back a winner but throw anyone/anything else under the bus.

I f I was Pollard, I would abolish Cyclone Alley except for the 200 that came today. Ticket sales for students are down from 2400 to 1700. WTF?

Ticket sales are down forever. The AD had to send out an email to donors basically begging people to buy. Midcourt seats only a few rows up in the balcony were available a few weeks ago.

 

[AlleyAddict]

I hope at least half the people on here complaining are sending an e-mail to Pollard. I also think CA is hurting us, but what good does our complaining do unless JP hears our opinions? Personally, I think CA is useless and it's stupid to make students who are already paying for the tickets to spend more when they don't need to. I honestly think the place would be a lot crazier in terms of fan support if CA was abolished.

 

[IcSyU]

wxman, I'm by NO means in love (go back, I was one of the lead rippers of CA last year) with CA, but the things people ***** about are just so they have something to ***** about. CA does NOTHING to stop you from cheering, or yelling any obscenities you feel, or making any signs you like. People ***** because Iowa State is losing. If we went Jamaal Tinsley this year and didn't lose, and then did the same thing next year, nobody would ***** about CA. I've been to Iowa State games as long as I can remember (Willoughby, Cato, Pratt, Bankhead days) and the biggest differences between then and now are:

a) quality of the team on the floor
b) hideous promotions that suck the life out of the place

Now, the $15 for SAA is horse ****, and it isn't going to be changing anytime soon because SAA is a bunch of *** holes, so people can ***** away at that. I have yet to figure out who possibly could have thought the students would appreciate that.

That said, there is absolutely no chance Cyclone Alley is going anywhere anytime soon, nor is SAA going to get any smarter. The only thing that would happen if CA was abolished was ticket prices would jump $30. I can promise you that. Pollard isn't stupid, and knows students will pay that. He also knows otherwise the students will spend $99 and get those season tickets in the upper level.

 

[ca4cy]

We should do away with the student section all together. Spread the students through out the whole stadium, that's how Indiana does it and it works great if it's done right.

That's the way it was when I was at ISU. You had your student season tickets rotated between 4 spots, anywhere from under the basket, to parquet, to balcony. I think having students spread throughout the arena made it much better.

There's been plenty of factors that have led to the death of Hilton Magic. Poor basketball has been the single largest, but there's enough blame to go around. The amount of advertising that has been sold is big. It used to be that when ISU went on a run and the place got loud, calling a timeout did little good as the crowd would cheer through it while the band played. Now we've got to get our plugs in on the video board for whatever the flavor of the day is. It completely kills momentum.

Some of it falls on the students as well. I fully understand tests and work schedules. I lived it. That said, there just about had to be a death in the family for me to miss a game at Hilton. I'm sorry, but 24 (if true) people in 2 sections designated for Cyclone Alley? That goes well beyond tests and projects. That's a change in the culture on campus that has somehow made it cool to just go to the big games and to hell with the rest of them. That change has also hit the general ticket base as even exhibition games used to have 10-13,000 when I was in school. Yes the teams were better, but there was a better energy all the way around. Now people have the Pro Sports thing going where, if a team doesn't perform or project up to their expectations, they're not going to go out of their way to support them.

And a couple other complaints since I'm ******* people off. Swearing doesn't make our student section look cool on tv. We used to be an intimidating crowd without the f-bombs. Also, jumping up and down and yelling "ooohhhhhhh" gets real old. Mix in a good old fashioned "DE-FENSE" chant every once in awhile.

 

[wxman1]

IcSyU I'm not arguing the fact that the product on the floor being better would help I completely agree. Everything to do with CA and SAA is wrong with how they handle the game atmosphere. By the way SAA and CA is $30.

I would not mind and would probably still join if it was just one end or something. I like the idea of for $10 being able to get transportation a ticket and a meal to an away game. Some of the props are cool. My main argument is that the ushers check your shirt to make sure you have the right one on and stuff like that.

 

[IcSyU]

IcSyU I'm not arguing the fact that the product on the floor being better would help I completely agree. Everything to do with CA and SAA is wrong with how they handle the game atmosphere. By the way SAA and CA is $30.

I would not mind and would probably still join if it was just one end or something. I like the idea of for $10 being able to get transportation a ticket and a meal to an away game. Some of the props are cool. My main argument is that the ushers check your shirt to make sure you have the right one on and stuff like that.

I was going at it as CA for $15 and SAA for $15. :smile:

The road trips are freaking awesome. ******* off all of the Devaney Center last year was a blast! One last chance to **** them off this year, and hopefully a bunch of people head to Iowa City for what should be a great game between ranked teams for the women.

 

[isucy1234]

We should do away with the student section all together. Spread the students through out the whole stadium, that's how Indiana does it and it works great if it's done right.

Awful idea. The students will want to stand the entire game, the old geezers will not. Complaining about not being able to see would ensue, guaranteed. It's as simple as that.

 

[AlleyAddict]

Well, not to be a hypocrite, I just sent JP an email, I hope you guys do too.

Hello Mr. Pollard,

I saw some pictures of Cyclone Alley today, and I was shocked to see such a small number of students in Cyclone Alley. I am just wondering what the advantage of having Cyclone Alley is. I know it's nice to have the matching shirts, but I think students would be more inclined to attend games if the whole process wasn't so structured. I believe that basketball has become kind of a thing where students go only if they don't have anything else to do, with the exception of big games like Kansas, and we don't really look forward to games like we do for football.

I personally have had a problem with the way seating is handled. A group of friends and I showed up early and stood in the rain for about three and a half hours for the Kansas game last year, and we were first in line to get in, but once the doors opened and we get to the entrance to the CA student section, the staff member told us we had to go get new shirts, and it was a madhouse to get them, there was no organization and it looked like the New York Stock Exchange. We finally got our tickets, and by the time we got back we got about 10th row seats, including behind the Cyclone Alley Committee, who wasn't even there yet.

That has always left a bad taste in my mouth, I think the people who get there earliest are probably the best fans that we have, and instead of them leading the cheering from the student section, it is some people from the CAC who show up at game time.

In conclusion, I am just asking you for some insight on Cyclone Alley. I was wondering what the advantages are of having Cyclone Alley and the CAC, rather than just a general student section. Thank you for your time.

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Sophomore
College of Engineering
********@iastate.edu

 

[IcSyU]

Uh, I know for an absolute fact most of the CA members are there long before any of us are, and I'm always there before the doors open.

And don't kid yourself. People get excited for football games because they can drink all day beforehand.

 

[AlleyAddict]

Uh, I know for an absolute fact most of the CA members are there long before any of us are, and I'm always there before the doors open.

And don't kid yourself. People get excited for football games because they can drink all day beforehand.

Ok, is that why they walked right past me into the front row? And people can't get excited for athletic events for other reasons other than to drink? Don't kid yourself.

 

[Clonefan32]

Agreed...I would much prefer to see it just a "student section"...you can call it Cyclone Alley or whatever you want, but don't charge extra and don't do t-shirts

But that would deprive several nerds of a resume "fluff" leadership position!

 

[AlleyAddict]

But that would deprive several nerds of a resume "fluff" leadership position!

Exactly! That's all the CAC is, they're not great fans, they're just trying to add to their resume. The great fans who show up early should get first dibs on seats, not kids who sit on their hands the whole game.

 

[IcSyU]

Ok, is that why they walked right past me into the front row? And people can't get excited for athletic events for other reasons other than to drink? Don't kid yourself.

Football has fringe fans. Know why? Tailgating. You're naive if you don't recognize this.

And yeah, I know they walked by, and guess who is doing things behind the scenes before games? Think the Alley Rally crap does itself? How about the props? Handing out shirts? Handling sign ups?