Death to Cyclone Alley!

[CycloneErik]

I'm a season ticket holder and will be until the day I die. :smile:

However, adults can identify with Fred. Today's college students are too young to remember Fred hitting jump shots at Hilton. We don't have the same attachment older folks (yeah, just went there :wideeyed do. There aren't very many die hard Cyclone fans. A lot of students here that I talk to at games had no idea about Iowa State athletics before they got here. The way to pull people in is win basketball games. Kansas State is a great example.

Hmmmm, that's how Johnny started Hilton Magic. Exciting style and winning basketball.

But since you said old, I might have to take you down.

 

[CloneFan03]

As a former member of CAC I can say that there is a lot to do before games. We were at Hilton at least an hour before game time and many games I didn't get to my seat until tip-off because I was finishing my responsibilities (preping/handing out/putting away props, shirt hand out table, etc, getting promotions ready, making sure Hilton staff/athletics staff were on our same page with our promotions/sponsors for the game, etc).

As for saying that CAC is just for "nerds trying to pad their resume and aren't true fans", I'm not sure how it is now since I live 700 miles away and can't attend games anymore, but when I was on CAC it was Huge Cyclone fans ("Horn Guy" would be one example of someone everyone would know, or some may remember Afro guy).

Cyclone Alley started out strong but the Alumni Association has too much power with it. I tried hard to get CA to become solely a part of the Athletic Dept. and have it connected with the marketing department. If people are truly disappointed with Cyclone Alley, this message board is not the route to take to make a difference. You're best bet would be to email Jeff Johnson and let him know what you're opinion is....though it won't change anything.

 

[IcSyU]

This might just be the first time I've heard him say he couldn't make it.

Man has even been there over Christmas break. He's involved.


And he can feel free to send cash or food for this post.:yes:

1. I think it's the 2nd? game I've missed since 2007 in Hilton.
2. Be there again this year too. Beauty of friends buying the $99 tickets and being home for break.
3. Loses 50 pounds, and wants food. I've lost about 30, and having extra food around isn't the way to do it.

 

[CycloneErik]

1. I think it's the 2nd? game I've missed since 2007 in Hilton.
2. Be there again this year too. Beauty of friends buying the $99 tickets and being home for break.
3. Loses 50 pounds, and wants food. I've lost about 30, and having extra food around isn't the way to do it.

Actually, it was. I was eating one meal a day, sometimes two.

Eating more often (3 meals) got that metabolism going and a good, sustainable habit.

Oh, yeah. So where's my food? I'll fit it right into those 3 meals, no doubt about it.

 

[cyrevkah]

So you're saying I owe my group members for making sure I missed it?

Women's game last night was dizzy bat.

And I'm trying to be shocked you remembered something about food. :wideeyed:

Actually they did both the pasta and the burrito. They would swich off nights..:wideeyed:

I'm not sure I"m proud that I know this...

 

[Thompsonclone]

that's a bad excuse to say students are too young to go out and support Hoiberg. I am only 16 but I know what Fred means to our program.

 

[IcSyU]

that's a bad excuse to say students are too young to go out and support Hoiberg. I am only 16 but I know what Fred means to our program.

You know he's the Mayor. You have no recollection of him playing or anything. You don't have the same attachment people 25+ do. I'd also guess you were born in Iowa and have been an Iowa State fan your whole life. Not everyone at Iowa State is. I think half of the Twin Cities goes to school here.

 

[iahawkhunter]

that's a bad excuse to say students are too young to go out and support Hoiberg. I am only 16 but I know what Fred means to our program.

I don't see anyone suggesting that students are "too young to support Hoiberg". The previous comments were that Hoiberg is "before our time" for many of the students, making him just another coach to much of the student body.

Sure, some students remember highlights of Hoiberg's playing days. I would bet, though, that many students are like me in that they know Hoiberg was a great player (thanks to everyone telling me he is and his jersey hanging from the rafters), but we don't have any emotional attachment beyond that. Without that emotional attachment, students aren't going to show up just to see the coach. They're going to show up to see the basketball game.

 

[cyclonepower3]

The amount of lies made about CAC is absolutly rediculous in all these threads its almost funny....CAC is there over an hour and a half before every single men's and women's game...ever think they didn't come down to their seats till the start of the game because they where the ones passing out the shirts? And thats only one of the many lies disproved...

 

[Thompsonclone]

You know he's the Mayor. You have no recollection of him playing or anything. You don't have the same attachment people 25+ do. I'd also guess you were born in Iowa and have been an Iowa State fan your whole life. Not everyone at Iowa State is. I think half of the Twin Cities goes to school here.

I know him more than just as the Mayor. If you are a student from out of state I can understand how you don't know him.

 

[cloneswereall]

The amount of lies made about CAC is absolutly rediculous in all these threads its almost funny....CAC is there over an hour and a half before every single men's and women's game...ever think they didn't come down to their seats till the start of the game because they where the ones passing out the shirts? And thats only one of the many lies disproved...

Well, if some random person on the internet says it, it must be true!

 

[iahawkhunter]

Since there are a couple of CA apologeticists in this thread, here's a question for you: what value-added product/service/experience does CA bring to a basketball game?

CA charges students a fee for their membership, so it is reasonable to expect students to realize some benefit for their fee that they would not have with a general student section (and I'd like to see an answer better than "they get to be a part of CA"). Along those lines, what benefit does CA provide to the AD and the general-public's gameday experience as compared to having a general student section?

 

[iahawkhunter]

Well, if some random person on the internet says it, it must be true!

Of course! :yes:

If you'll excuse me, there's a nice man offering me some candy by his van...

 

[IcSyU]

Well, if some random person on the internet says it, it must be true!

Did we get that Good News Bobcats was talking about yet?

 

[cyclonepower3]

Well, if some random person on the internet says it, it must be true!

You realize you just discredited everything said in this thread about CA and CAC right? haha

 

[iowast8fan]

Hello Mr. Pollard,

I saw some pictures of Cyclone Alley today, and I was shocked to see such a small number of students in Cyclone Alley. I am just wondering what the advantage of having Cyclone Alley is. I know it's nice to have the matching shirts, but I think students would be more inclined to attend games if the whole process wasn't so structured. I believe that basketball has become kind of a thing where students go only if they don't have anything else to do, with the exception of big games like Kansas, and we don't really look forward to games like we do for football.

I personally have had a problem with the way seating is handled. A group of friends and I showed up early and stood in the rain for about three and a half hours for the Kansas game last year, and we were first in line to get in, but once the doors opened and we get to the entrance to the CA student section, the staff member told us we had to go get new shirts, and it was a madhouse to get them, there was no organization and it looked like the New York Stock Exchange. We finally got our tickets, and by the time we got back we got about 10th row seats, including behind the Cyclone Alley Committee, who wasn't even there yet.

That has always left a bad taste in my mouth, I think the people who get there earliest are probably the best fans that we have, and instead of them leading the cheering from the student section, it is some people from the CAC who show up at game time.

In conclusion, I am just asking you for some insight on Cyclone Alley. I was wondering what the advantages are of having Cyclone Alley and the CAC, rather than just a general student section. Thank you for your time.

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A few things wrong with this email:

1. Starts out saying you saw "pictures" of CA. That means you didn't go to the game. You lose all credibility right there. Anyone who does not attend the game has no room to criticize the attendance.

2. You say the students would be more inclined to attend games if the process wasn't so "structured". Then, follow up with complaining that there was no "organization" to getting t-shirts for the Kansas game.

3. You make a claim that you are among the biggest fans and want to sit up front where CAC sits...yet you don't join the CAC. If you really want to change things with Cyclone Alley, then wouldn't joining the committee be your best avenue to make changes rather than an email to Jamie Pollard?


I've been to all 3 games, and only missed 2 games last year (gave my tickets to others in my place). I've been getting season tickets for 4 years now, and the student turnout is the lowest I have seen in 4 years. It's sad. However, you are sophomore student. You have this year and 2 more years to make a difference. MY time as a student has passed. All of you students complaining about Cyclone Alley need to rise up and get into a leadership position and make the right changes yourself.

 

[driegner]

1.) Sunday is homework day. /Thread

But, because this thread has turned into bash CA I'll toss in a little more...

2.) We sucked for 5 years. Students have no reasons to get excited for basketball, especially not against AL state and especially not on a Sunday (See #1)

3.) CA will suck until more people show up...that won't happen until we win (see #2) and we play good opponents at a better time (see #1).

4.) CA needs to stop pushing the SAA thing so hard. That's what's killing it. Students are cheap.

Personally, I love SAA because I save a lot of money with the discounts, but a lot of people see it as a waste and opt not to buy tickets AT ALL as the alternative.

5.) Requiring students to wear the shirt kills attendance because it's harder to transfer the tickets.

Signed,

ISU Student

 

[driegner]

A few things wrong with this email:

1. Starts out saying you saw "pictures" of CA. That means you didn't go to the game. You lose all credibility right there. Anyone who does not attend the game has no room to criticize the attendance.

2. You say the students would be more inclined to attend games if the process wasn't so "structured". Then, follow up with complaining that there was no "organization" to getting t-shirts for the Kansas game.

3. You make a claim that you are among the biggest fans and want to sit up front where CAC sits...yet you don't join the CAC. If you really want to change things with Cyclone Alley, then wouldn't joining the committee be your best avenue to make changes rather than an email to Jamie Pollard?


I've been to all 3 games, and only missed 2 games last year (gave my tickets to others in my place). I've been getting season tickets for 4 years now, and the student turnout is the lowest I have seen in 4 years. It's sad. However, you are sophomore student. You have this year and 2 more years to make a difference. MY time as a student has passed. All of you students complaining about Cyclone Alley need to rise up and get into a leadership position and make the right changes yourself.

Not true, a good friend of mine (and lifelong Cyclone fan) tried to join and never even got an e-mail/phone call. That committee is reserved for the privileged and seems to grandfather in D-bags who are interested int he power.

 

[iowast8fan]

Since there are a couple of CA apologeticists in this thread, here's a question for you: what value-added product/service/experience does CA bring to a basketball game?

CA charges students a fee for their membership, so it is reasonable to expect students to realize some benefit for their fee that they would not have with a general student section (and I'd like to see an answer better than "they get to be a part of CA"). Along those lines, what benefit does CA provide to the AD and the general-public's gameday experience as compared to having a general student section?

For the fee of the membership: you get better seats and the opportunity to represent the fanbase on national television.

Benefit CA "could" provide the AD: If the students would buy into the idea of Cyclone Alley, it would be an amazing sight for TV and recruits. I realize most don't like the t-shirt thing, but a full Cyclone Alley in matching shirts is one heck of a sight. It intimidates the opponent, shows support when recruits visit, and provides a distinctive appearance on television.

 

[IcSyU]

Not true, a good friend of mine (and lifelong Cyclone fan) tried to join and never even got an e-mail/phone call. That committee is reserved for the privileged and seems to grandfather in D-bags who are interested int he power.

You interview to join. But their selection process sucks. I know at least 2 HUGE fans who everyone knows because of their game day attire who were turned away. That shouldn't happen. Absolutely no excuse for it. I have another friend who is a huge fan but didn't even care about Iowa State until he came to school here, yet he got on. Still puzzles me to this day.

And frankly, most of the people on CAC are good people, its the AA that's the issue. You know, the embarrassment that'll hit the field at Jack Trice about 5:45 Saturday night? There's the biggest issue.