Death to Cyclone Alley!
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Whenever they pan across Cyclone Alley I become embarrassed. Everyone in CA looks like they are about 15 years old, clapping as though Phil Mickleson just hit an iron to within a few feet of the cup. I counted 3 times I saw someone in CA yawn while a camera was on them on Friday.
You're not intimidated by a group of similarly dressed 16 year old nerds?
You're kidding yourself if you think its intimidating. If 14,000 people are screaming their lungs out, it doesn't matter (within reason) what they're wearing. Recruits will be impressed.
Screw the specific shirts, just tell people to wear a red freaking shirt.
I support the idea of Cyclone Alley. I'm disheartened by the student turnout. I'd completely support a non-CA student section if it meant a better turnout. Unfortunately, I don't believe CA is the problem here. CA may have contributed to the decline, but I believe the students just have a different attitude towards basketball than they used to. I hate it. The team will need a couple great years to rebuild the student fan base.
Winning big games will breed a new student fan. Eventually the current students will graduate and take their lame attitude with them, and the new breed of students can begin to build a new hilton magic. I've given up on our current batch of students.
Winning big games will breed a new student fan. Eventually the current students will graduate and take their lame attitude with them, and the new breed of students can begin to build a new hilton magic. I've given up on our current batch of students.
Just out of curiosity, why would the AA have anything to do with CA? Not trying to disagree with you, just curious why an alumni association would regulate a student organization...
The earlier you can sink the money-hook, the deeper you can plant it and the less likely they'll get away.
CA has problems but it really isn't as terrible as some of you are making it out to be. As some posters have pointed out the problem is winning. There aren't too many people on campus right now that are huge ISU basketball fans. This would obviously change if we have 2-3 years of consistent winning but until then we are still going to have problems with student, and general, attendance.
Is CA kind of lame? Yes, but fans aren't forced to follow the dumb cheers and stuff they come up with.
Is CA kind of lame? Yes, but fans aren't forced to follow the dumb cheers and stuff they come up with.
I went on the roadtrip to Nebraska last year and thought it was a pretty awesome experience...the gamewatches aren't terrible and as for home games I think it looks sweet having everyone in the same shirt and if they have a good prop then it makes things better....as for the organized cheers, I overheard Royce White say "thats sweet I don't know if i could make it looking into that"....that actually changed my opinion of that from last year to this year
I'm sure nobody ever yawned back in the 90's!
Honestly though give the students a product they can really cheer about on the court and that will solve most, if not all, of the problems we are discussing here. That might not be right but its true of every fan base in the nation. Exciting, winning basketball= better fans.
I have a feeling next year will help that.
For sure. Cant even give the tickets away. Something that is important when comparing regular seats and student seats. How many there were there in season ticket holders seats that were sold to them, often for cheap? I know there were some around us that this was the case for today, and i know of a group of tickets in the parquet from another donor that were sold to someone. If youre in CA? Youre stuck, those tickets have no value whatsoever without the tshirt.
Yes, because in 2002? when we played Eastern/Western Illinois and Binghamton in the Cyclone Challenge Hilton was ROCKING! Those games were pathetic and I remember them like yesterday. For some reason, people's memories fade as time goes on and they suddenly think that every single game, Hilton was rocking. Truth be told, that isn't anything close to true. I've been going to games since 1996, and I can't think of a single game where we've played a no-name school that it has been rocking in Hilton. Yes, every year we play Iowa, Drake, UNI, etc. there are people, and some non-conference showdowns (Virginia for example....Stinson-Blalock-Clark....prettttty!) have a great environment, but Savannah State, Western Illinois, Alabama State, Morningside (I think we damn near got beat?), Iona, etc. have NEVER had great environments.
This is true. I dont know if it was ever as empty as today, but these nonconference no-name teams are always empty. Perhaps people dont remember how bad they were because they skipped them too. :twitcy:
I'm pretty sure the AA runs everything down to SAA, SALC, and CA. CA is not an athletics department entity like it probably should be.
You can still give them away, the person getting the tickets is just stuck in the upper level.
Well, this is awkward. I agree with IcSyU. I don't think CA does much good, but I also don't think they do harm. Someone asked that since Fred doesn't have pull with current students (he doesn't, it is true) what would have pull. Winning. Winning would pull students. The difference between football and basketball fan attendance begins and ends with two things: The social aspect and it always being on Saturdays in generally nicer weather. I can name you 5 people off the top of my head who hold season football tickets but not basketball and I wouldn't say their amount of caring about the two is any different. It's pretty simple. When we start winning, people will stop caring about CA.
I agree Jeff Johnson is probably one of the biggest problems. As much fun as the Nebraska trip was last year I sat behind the CAC members and Jeff and his wife on the bus and let's just say Jeff has them eating out of his hand...
Cyclone Alley does hurt attendance. My senior year, I wasn't going to pay for being in CA when I'd already boughten student tickets, and I didn't want to sit in the upper level when there were lots of empty seats down below in the student section.....so I just watched games on TV. CA just felt like a "class" system. No thanks.
Hell yes. I went to every game regardless who we played when I was in school. I even went to the game by myself when we had TONS of snow outside because nobody else wanted to go with me.
God, I wish I lived in Ames, so I can go to all of the games.
Morningside game was awesome. I still remember that game....
God, that was like... 10 years ago.
