Nope, I'd love to be proven wrong, but from what I've seen that has formulated my opinion on the situation, the chances are slim, but continue on yaman!!
Next years QB situation
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Nope, I'd love to be proven wrong, but from what I've seen that has formulated my opinion on the situation, the chances are slim, but continue on yaman!!
JT looked good in the game against mizzou if you asked me. If the recievers caught the ball that hit them in the hands or the lineman gave him more than 2 seconds to throw the ball, it might have been a different story come final score. I think the JT hate isn't fair. IMO, he will be better senior year than AA was.
Another great football mind comparing a guy with four starts to a fifth-year senior / 3 year starter. Try comparing JT to AA at the same stage of their careers then tell me if I should be optimistic that JT can do what AA did or should I hope one of the younger guys take the reins. If AA was extremely better at four starts then I'll get on board with you. I'm waiting.......
GP EFF ATT Comp INT % Yds TD LNG Yd/G
Arnaud,Austen 12 127.44 247-401-10 61.6 2792 15 54 232.7
well thats what he did his sophomore year before he seemed to plateau as a redshirt sophomore.....
Tiller,Jerome 7-1 88.8 39-82-0 47.6 363 1 39 51.9
Seriously get off the texas football player bias..
Tiller hasn't shown anything to make me optimistic for next year, I hope for the best, but he's definitely lacking things that we have seen the last three years....
You can hate on AA all you want, but the stats show he has been one of the best qb's we have had at Iowa state
Seriously get off the texas football player bias..
Tiller hasn't shown anything to make me optimistic for next year, I hope for the best, but he's definitely lacking things that we have seen the last three years....
You can hate on AA all you want, but the stats show he has been one of the best qb's we have had at Iowa state[/QUOTE]
I knew you that you would do this. Once again, comparing a starter to a backup. Why not post the 2007 stats when AA was the BACKUP behind Meyer. Why, because no one could say by
looking at AA's stats with 6 games played that he would turn out to be one of the best QB's in ISU history. His stats then where very close to the ones you just posted on JT.
Austen Arnaud College & Pro Football Statistics - Totalfootballstats.com
JT may come out exactly like you called it. That's fine with me because we have plenty of talented guys that will be pushing for the job. I just think you better remember, while you're bashing him, some of the good JT gave us at QB. We would not have been in a bowl game last year without him. What other backup QB on the roster makes that throw last year in the Nebraska game? And if our WR's could catch the football, we
could have had a repeat of JT getting us there again this past season.
As for your smart*** comment about Texas bias. It is what it is!
As for your comment on AA.... Your absolutely right on! I've been saying that since I joined this board. Even posted good stuff about AA in this thread. I absolutely love what AA has given to ISU. I watched him week after week give everything he had to try and win football games. I watched all of his post- game interviews on cyclones.com.
Great young man! Great leader! Great Cyclone QB!
BTW, while you're talking about my Texas bias, I think most of his bashing has come
from his fellow Iowans. Not all if them but most if them. We support our players in Texas when they are down.......Go Cowboys!
Tiller hasn't shown anything to make me optimistic for next year, I hope for the best, but he's definitely lacking things that we have seen the last three years....
You can hate on AA all you want, but the stats show he has been one of the best qb's we have had at Iowa state[/QUOTE]
I knew you that you would do this. Once again, comparing a starter to a backup. Why not post the 2007 stats when AA was the BACKUP behind Meyer. Why, because no one could say by
looking at AA's stats with 6 games played that he would turn out to be one of the best QB's in ISU history. His stats then where very close to the ones you just posted on JT.
Austen Arnaud College & Pro Football Statistics - Totalfootballstats.com
JT may come out exactly like you called it. That's fine with me because we have plenty of talented guys that will be pushing for the job. I just think you better remember, while you're bashing him, some of the good JT gave us at QB. We would not have been in a bowl game last year without him. What other backup QB on the roster makes that throw last year in the Nebraska game? And if our WR's could catch the football, we
could have had a repeat of JT getting us there again this past season.
As for your smart*** comment about Texas bias. It is what it is!
As for your comment on AA.... Your absolutely right on! I've been saying that since I joined this board. Even posted good stuff about AA in this thread. I absolutely love what AA has given to ISU. I watched him week after week give everything he had to try and win football games. I watched all of his post- game interviews on cyclones.com.
Great young man! Great leader! Great Cyclone QB!
BTW, while you're talking about my Texas bias, I think most of his bashing has come
from his fellow Iowans. Not all if them but most if them. We support our players in Texas when they are down.......Go Cowboys!
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Why are you drawing conclusions from comparing a full-time starter to an injured back-up?
My new best friend on CF. We should have a few beers and some laughs the next time I'm in Ames. Seriously.
CyDude16 said:
I agree. When the receivers were dropping Arnaud's passes, it was Arnaud's fault, but as soon as they drop Tiller's passes, everyone started blaming the WRs. Either people realized that the receivers were a bigger problem than QB, or they had an irrational hate of Arnaud/like of Tiller.
Regarding next year, I don't think it takes much thought to realize that Jantz wasn't signed to hold a clip board. I think the coaching staff feels it's most likely that he wins the starting job. However, that's very different than already handing him the reigns. There's going to be a competition, and the best man will win it. I think when the dust settles, Tiller will be playing WR this fall, and possibly be our immediate #1.
If Tiller wants any chance of playing in the NFL, he will move to WR IMO.
Other than that, I don't think the coaches know who will win the job right now? All we can be sure of is that they weren't too sure about anyone on the roster being the "for sure" starter next year, otherwise they would not have brought in Jantz.
I think they have hope for Capello, Barnett, and Richardson eventually, but maybe not for next year? And they obviously are not 100% sold on Tiller, so they thought he needed some competition.
But I don't think any of the coaches have penciled anyone in.
Other than that, I don't think the coaches know who will win the job right now? All we can be sure of is that they weren't too sure about anyone on the roster being the "for sure" starter next year, otherwise they would not have brought in Jantz.
I think they have hope for Capello, Barnett, and Richardson eventually, but maybe not for next year? And they obviously are not 100% sold on Tiller, so they thought he needed some competition.
But I don't think any of the coaches have penciled anyone in.
Tiller has a huge edge in a couple areas he has a significantly greater amount of game experience compared to his teammates and he will be going through his third season with the same position coach and O-Coordinator. Combine that with his athleticism and he will be tough to beat out. I am not saying the other QB's aren't athletic but it's not an area in which his teammates can make-up ground.
Disagree with that. Hardly ever is an open QB battle won in the spring. A leader will probably emerge, but I'd bet money that the battle will go on through the summer and into the fall. It wouldn't surprise me if 2 QBs get meaningful snaps in the first game or two. That's not optimal for sure, but Tiller clearly has not done enough to give the staff confidence in him and I really doubt that he can improve enough in one spring to claim the position outright.
Obviously, the sooner a starter is declared, the better it is for the team. We saw a few years ago what a QB controversy during the season can do to a team. But, letting things play out during the summer keeps everyone working at a top level throughout the offseason plus helps to prevent transfers.
Everyone calm down. You guys just wait. I was right about the win at Texas and I'm right about the QB situation for 2011. and when you see that I'm right your gonna want to kiss me.
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No you're not right. You're simply speculating at this point. There is no set starting qb at this point, and if there is, then the coaches are fools. You don't just assume that a player who has never played on this team or practiced with them will all of a sudden will be "given" the starting role. He will have to earn that in camp and in practices. Can he earn it? Yes, definitely. But there is no freakin way that he is the starter at this point in time.
And your rationale about being right on the Texas game and now we should believe you on this is absurd. Heck, I'm calling an Auburn win in the NC. If that comes true, I can make random predictions and claim I have inside sources as well, right?
Hey bud calm down. I know some High school coaches that are in contact with the isu coaching staff. See sometimes College coaches make friends with high school coaches to set up some kind of recruiting ground. and believe it or not coaches are regular people (not CIA agents sworn to secrecy) Who share small pieces of info like whats going on at work and there opinions of whats going on, with there friends
Now im not claiming to be best buds with Paul Rhoads. im just saying im friends with some of the High school coaches and some other football trainers.
You can be best friends with CPR for all I care. Doesn't matter, because even he doesn't know who the starting qb for next year will be at this point. It's too early to tell. Sure Steele has a legitimate shot at the spot; I don't think they would have brought him in if he didn't have at least a chance to. Bottom line is, the job isn't determined at this point. Even if they did decide to move Tiller to WR, that still doesn't mean that Steele will start. Bottom line.
that's all this is. a coaches opinion. And if you interpreted it differently I'm sorry i wasn't more clear.
I don't think anyone who was thinking clearly thought the staff had named a guy with no experience with the team the starter. You did word it matter-of-factly though which I think is what caused the backlash.
