Hey Missouri

[00clone]

Bend over to what exactly? So one conference game not including ISU will be shown on the LHN and in turn ISU has a much better chance of getting a better television slot for that weekend in return. What would ISU fans possibly have to be ****** off about?

Al_4_state, you might as well just bend over and take it, because that is what you are doing without complaint.

essentially what is happening here is that UT is going to make more money off of other fans that have to buy the network to watch one game and that money could be spent on that fans own team! and tv is tv sure but not everywhere is going to have access to the longhorn network.

I can't think of a better way to illustrate the difference between Iowa State and Nebraska fan bases than these two quotes.

Iowa State fans realize we're not a national power, and we won't be unless we make more money. This situation makes us more money, so that's what's important. Texas getting one game on their network could be annoying for us (if it's our game, but I doubt it will be), could be neutral for us (not us, doesn't affect our TV broadcasts), or could be good for us (not us, we get on nat'l TV instead). Right now, a rising tide in the Big XII floats all boats. True, Texas is floating a supertanker, but if we whine about that, our dinghy sinks.

Nebraska fans have yet to or are starting to realize they haven't been a national power for a while. Could they get back, sure. But like ND, they still have the illusions that they're a shot caller no matter where they go. They also believe that something that is good for another school means it HAS to be bad for Nebraska. They will fight against anything that's good for another school, without regard to whether it has any impact on them. That doesn't make for a good conference partner...which may be why the Big XII by all accounts is a lot more harmonious lately. There are exceptions to this, of course, but they're from people like this guy:

Staff: David Briggs

THAT dude is DEFINITELY from Missourah.

BTW: Huskerman, shouldn't you be trolling BIG message boards? The move was mutually beneficial, you got away from Texas, we got rid of you. We didn't ruin your party, don't ruin ours. And "I root for ISU as a secondary team" as a Nebraska fan is like saying I root for Jesus when he's not playing satan, far as I'm concerned.

 

[Al_4_State]

i cant believe some of you are trying to justify this! wow.

i follow ISU as a second team considering i went to school there, so i hate to see this happen.

Al_4_state, you might as well just bend over and take it, because that is what you are doing without complaint.

essentially what is happening here is that UT is going to make more money off of other fans that have to buy the network to watch one game and that money could be spent on that fans own team! and tv is tv sure but not everywhere is going to have access to the longhorn network.

ISU fans are the ONLY fans in the big12 that seem to be ok with this happening other that UT of course. there is a reason that the other 8 teams arent too happy about it. i mean give me a break, i understand that ISU has not had historically great ams but that doesnt mean they need to just bend over.

Give me one reason, just one, how this negatively affects ANYONE.

It's all about bitterness towards Texas that's rooted in jealousy. The difference between ISU and all these other schools is that ISU is far more in touch with the reality of the situation and doesn't see the point in whining about it. Without marquee schools, half of the schools in BCS leagues wouldn't be there. We benefit from Texas getting what they want.

HOW are we getting bent over? WHAT are we going to do about it?

Texas gets one freaking game on the LHN for one freaking year. It's just insane to me that fans from these other schools are so up in arms about "getting bent over". Who is Texas bending over? How are they doing it? I don't get it. People make a big deal over this for no reason. If anything kills the Big 12, it won't be Texas's greed but 8 other schools' irrational anger over Texas's greed.

 

[Al_4_State]

One more thing: it's fans and sportswriters who are upset about this. Not university presidents. They couldn't care less. Why? MORE MONEY. Their job isn't to get butt hurt about Texas, it's to make their schools more cash.

 

[00clone]

Just realized this. Other than the crazazy part, Iowa state is like Charlie Sheen, the only things that matter are Winning and Getting Paid.

 

[heitclone]

This is ONE game, ONE year. I don't see this as Texas trying to get more money out of an opposing fanbase. I mean how many KU fans are really going pony up for the LHN just watch one game that don't have enough interest in Big 12 sports to actually want the LHN anyway? It's just a way for them to sell the network to their own fans. If anyone is really that bent out of shape over this they won't watch the game anyway. MOving this game bumps another game up the pecking order and gives 2 other teams a televised game, I just don't see this as catastrophic.

 

[CyBobby]

Yeah I would love to see Mizzou get kicked out of our new Texas Ten Conference.


Mizzou along with Texas A & M definitely want out of the league going to the big ten and sec respectively is what both schools want, fact of the matter... the students at aggieland voted overwhelmingly to join the sec and leave the tx ten....


The only teams that want to definitely stay in the texas ten are of course ISU but also Baylor Kansas KState and I assume Texas Tech.....



Of course the u of texas desperately wants to remain in the texas ten as long as


THE HORNS CAN KEEP RUNNING THE LEAGUE AS THEY SEE FIT AND GET THE LIONS SHARE OF THE MONEY....

 

[00clone]

Yeah I would love to see Mizzou get kicked out of our new Texas Ten Conference.


Mizzou along with Texas A & M definitely want out of the league going to the big ten and sec respectively is what both schools want, fact of the matter... the students at aggieland voted overwhelmingly to join the sec and leave the tx ten....


The only teams that want to definitely stay in the texas ten are of course ISU but also Baylor Kansas KState and I assume Texas Tech.....



Of course the u of texas desperately wants to remain in the texas ten as long as


THE HORNS CAN KEEP RUNNING THE LEAGUE AS THEY SEE FIT AND GET THE LIONS SHARE OF THE MONEY....

Oh, the students want out. They definitely know what's best for the university. Much better than the AD's and presidents. Yep. I think Huskerfan has a seat open next to him in the NEBRASKSA/iowa state bus

 

[PabloDiablo]

I couldn't care less. Are we still making more than a year ago? Yup. Are we still in a BCS conference? Yup.

Agreed, plus if there is any chance that this game ends up on the LHN which it won't, people who are ******** about it should buy a ******* ticket and go to the ******* game!

i cant believe some of you are trying to justify this! wow.

i follow ISU as a second team considering i went to school there, so i hate to see this happen.

Al_4_state, you might as well just bend over and take it, because that is what you are doing without complaint.

essentially what is happening here is that UT is going to make more money off of other fans that have to buy the network to watch one game and that money could be spent on that fans own team! and tv is tv sure but not everywhere is going to have access to the longhorn network.

ISU fans are the ONLY fans in the big12 that seem to be ok with this happening other that UT of course. there is a reason that the other 8 teams arent too happy about it. i mean give me a break, i understand that ISU has not had historically great teams but that doesnt mean they need to just bend over.

This might be the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. You think Ohio State wouldn't be doing this to the likes of Indiana and Northwestern if they were allowed. Get off your high horse and realize that until you're a full member of the Big Ten your vote counts less than IU and Purdue and Northwestern.

There is no reason to get condescending towards ISU fans because your mad at your ex-bf TX. We are doing what it takes to succeed in this CFB environment and anyone in the big 12 with the exception of OU, aTm and maybe OSU are just kidding themselves and putting on a pity party if they aren't happy with TX staying and being allowed to create their own network

Go ahead and keep drinking the Tom Osborne Kool-Aid and let him spoon feed you your opinion. That way you don't have to actually look at facts and you too can hold a 15 year grudge against Texas for not allowing partial qualifiers in the Big 12.

Cry about it.

 

[CtownCyclone]

I'm kind of surprised that only a Husker troll has wandered in. Down here in Houston, all the Aggies have their tinfoil hats on about this. I've been told I'm crazy for thinking this is not a big deal. In their minds, the Bevo Network grabbing a game makes our position weaker at the table for the Tier 1 contract since (they argue) Bevo can grab any game they want at any time from Tier 1 and slap it on the Bevo network.

Of course, these guys all still think they're going to the SEC in the next year or two, so take it for what it's worth...

 

[kgreeny]

I would like to see the network sell out more. Go get BYU (a bigger network then UT) and Notre Dame to joine with their own networks. Two more national networks we can be on (a good thing) and more money coming our way (a good thing). Hopefully we can and will need/have a good Clone network.

 

[CYphyllis]

Yeah I would love to see Mizzou get kicked out of our new Texas Ten Conference.


Mizzou along with Texas A & M definitely want out of the league going to the big ten and sec respectively is what both schools want, fact of the matter... the students at aggieland voted overwhelmingly to join the sec and leave the tx ten....


The only teams that want to definitely stay in the texas ten are of course ISU but also Baylor Kansas KState and I assume Texas Tech.....



Of course the u of texas desperately wants to remain in the texas ten as long as


THE HORNS CAN KEEP RUNNING THE LEAGUE AS THEY SEE FIT AND GET THE LIONS SHARE OF THE MONEY....

The students hate anything involved with Texas, they are irrational and unintelligent. There is a reason why university officials make decisions of this caliber and not the hillbilly swarm that attends A&M.

I think it's time you take the tin foil cap off and get the lead paint professionally removed from your home.

 

[3GenClone]

I'm kind of surprised that only a Husker troll has wandered in. Down here in Houston, all the Aggies have their tinfoil hats on about this. I've been told I'm crazy for thinking this is not a big deal. In their minds, the Bevo Network grabbing a game makes our position weaker at the table for the Tier 1 contract since (they argue) Bevo can grab any game they want at any time from Tier 1 and slap it on the Bevo network.

Of course, these guys all still think they're going to the SEC in the next year or two, so take it for what it's worth...

Those two ideas contradict each other. The Bevo Network is part of the ESPN family - how does airing a game on an ESPN channel make the conference weaker? The Bevo Network President has even said that they are willing to work with local stations to carry the channel out of state (example, ABC-5 airs the Bevo Network broadcast for the ISU-Texas game) - a luxury that channels such as ESPNU or FSN would make customers pay for.

 

[00clone]

Hey CyBobby, thanks for the rep, even if it was backhanded. I'm assuming so, since you said "I see your a hawk fan fro m iowa city".

Check my history, I'm an Iowa State fan that lives near Iowa City since I work here. We all have our burdens. You can't rationalize, I live near Iowa City.

 

[Al_4_State]

I'm kind of surprised that only a Husker troll has wandered in. Down here in Houston, all the Aggies have their tinfoil hats on about this. I've been told I'm crazy for thinking this is not a big deal. In their minds, the Bevo Network grabbing a game makes our position weaker at the table for the Tier 1 contract since (they argue) Bevo can grab any game they want at any time from Tier 1 and slap it on the Bevo network.

Of course, these guys all still think they're going to the SEC in the next year or two, so take it for what it's worth...

I assume you've pointed out that this is false, but they just go on their merry, psychotic way.

At this point, I'd almost like to see A&M out of the Big 12. I'm getting really sick of their fans. Plus, I saw someone point out on either ShaggyBevo or the Baylor board, that the Big 12 - A&M would probably make just as much per team, and a BYU could replace them easily. Let them leave, see how interested the SEC is, and watch them beg for reinstatement.

The bummer for A&M is that the SEC has no interest in expansion past 12 unless they absolutely have to, and the only way that they have to is if the Big 10 gets Notre Dame, which I don't think they're even pushing for at this point. Conferences will likely continue to shift and change, but it seems going past 12 is unlikely. This leaves things pretty damn settled.

 

[IcSyU]

I would like to see the network sell out more. Go get BYU (a bigger network then UT) and Notre Dame to joine with their own networks. Two more national networks we can be on (a good thing) and more money coming our way (a good thing). Hopefully we can and will need/have a good Clone network.

I'm pretty comfortable saying there will never be a national Clone network. Who would watch it? We'd be lucky to team up with the 8 outside Oklahoma and Texas for a network and even that wouldn't exactly have a ton of TV sets compared to things like the BTN.

 

[CtownCyclone]

I assume you've pointed out that this is false, but they just go on their merry, psychotic way.

At this point, I'd almost like to see A&M out of the Big 12. I'm getting really sick of their fans. Plus, I saw someone point out on either ShaggyBevo or the Baylor board, that the Big 12 - A&M would probably make just as much per team, and a BYU could replace them easily. Let them leave, see how interested the SEC is, and watch them beg for reinstatement.

The bummer for A&M is that the SEC has no interest in expansion past 12 unless they absolutely have to, and the only way that they have to is if the Big 10 gets Notre Dame, which I don't think they're even pushing for at this point. Conferences will likely continue to shift and change, but it seems going past 12 is unlikely. This leaves things pretty damn settled.

When it comes to anything related to UT, you can't have any rational discussion with an Ag. I just decided to smile and nod after giving up.

As for aTm leaving the Big 12, I don't think that's going to happen. Most of the regents down here want UT and aTm together forever.

 

[CtownCyclone]

I'm pretty comfortable saying there will never be a national Clone network. Who would watch it? We'd be lucky to team up with the 8 outside Oklahoma and Texas for a network and even that wouldn't exactly have a ton of TV sets compared to things like the BTN.

Not sure if it could be done, but could Clone Zone be expanded to show the Tier 3 stuff? I know I'd buy!

 

[Cyclonestate78]

Yeah I would love to see Mizzou get kicked out of our new Texas Ten Conference.


Mizzou along with Texas A & M definitely want out of the league going to the big ten and sec respectively is what both schools want, fact of the matter... the students at aggieland voted overwhelmingly to join the sec and leave the tx ten....


The only teams that want to definitely stay in the texas ten are of course ISU but also Baylor Kansas KState and I assume Texas Tech.....



Of course the u of texas desperately wants to remain in the texas ten as long as


THE HORNS CAN KEEP RUNNING THE LEAGUE AS THEY SEE FIT AND GET THE LIONS SHARE OF THE MONEY....

The only problem with the bolded section is that the SEC doesn't want Texas A&M. It would be similar to stating that the Iowa State students voted 99% to 1% to join the SEC.... still doesn't mean the SEC wants Iowa State.

As for Nebraska fans thoughts on all of this.... it is quite simple. Nebraska fan thinks that the universe revolves around Nebraska football. Their true hope was that when they left the Big XII that the conference would collapse without them.... I mean how could any conference survive with out the Big Red? Seriously? Big problem... the Big XII is now getting stronger, the teams Nebby used to screw on revenue sharing are now lined up to get big fat checks and the fine Nebraska folks are beside themselves that not only did the Big XII survive but it is thriving..... thanks mostly to their departure. As it turns out Nebraska has been exposed as the school that was holding the BIG XII as a whole back along with bleeding every penny of revenue they could get out of their smaller and less well off North Division schools.

Now the Big XII schools are set up for giant paydays while Nebraska is heading to the BIG where Ohio State is heading down the toilet, Michigan has already gone down the toilet, Iowa is poised to drop off, Wisconsin was about to go off the cliff until they got Wilson from NC State, and they have powers like Minnesota, Indiana, and Northwestern. Nebby downgraded big time just to try and make a quick buck while running away in their **** stained pants from Texas. Pathetic.

 

[kgreeny]

I'm pretty comfortable saying there will never be a national Clone network. Who would watch it? We'd be lucky to team up with the 8 outside Oklahoma and Texas for a network and even that wouldn't exactly have a ton of TV sets compared to things like the BTN.

I don't disagree with you on anything you said. I would like the idea of a combined network with the "others". The forward thinking in all of this is that more money leads to more winning, leads to more of a national brand, leads to more viewers.

Plus with CFH rocking New York, we are soon going to be a mainstay in the largest city in the country!!:wink:

 

[Al_4_State]

The only problem with the bolded section is that the SEC doesn't want Texas A&M. It would be similar to stating that the Iowa State students voted 99% to 1% to join the SEC.... still doesn't mean the SEC wants Iowa State.

As for Nebraska fans thoughts on all of this.... it is quite simple. Nebraska fan thinks that the universe revolves around Nebraska football. Their true hope was that when they left the Big XII that the conference would collapse without them.... I mean how could any conference survive with out the Big Red? Seriously? Big problem... the Big XII is now getting stronger, the teams Nebby used to screw on revenue sharing are now lined up to get big fat checks and the fine Nebraska folks are beside themselves that not only did the Big XII survive but it is thriving..... thanks mostly to their departure. As it turns out Nebraska has been exposed as the school that was holding the BIG XII as a whole back along with bleeding every penny of revenue they could get out of their smaller and less well off North Division schools.

Now the Big XII schools are set up for giant paydays while Nebraska is heading to the BIG where Ohio State is heading down the toilet, Michigan has already gone down the toilet, Iowa is poised to drop off, Wisconsin was about to go off the cliff until they got Wilson from NC State, and they have powers like Minnesota, Indiana, and Northwestern. Nebby downgraded big time just to try and make a quick buck while running away in their **** stained pants from Texas. Pathetic.

This is so true. I don't even think Nebraska fans are fully aware of this, but damn if it isn't true.