JoePa Fired/What is happening at Penn State?!?!

[jbindm]

Re: Paterno to retire at seasons end

Unfortunately, I totally see this happening.

Yeah. If they BOR at Penn State lets him finish out the year I can absolutely see this turning into a complete three ring circus. I hope they do the right thing and force him out today. Like right now. And McQueary (the coach who reported the incident to Paterno in the first place) needs to be removed from the sidelines as well. If they can't justifiably fire him yet, then at the very least put him on administrative lead until they can. Take anyone who has publicly been connected to this whole mess so far and remove them from the campus and the field. Someone at PSU needs to stand the **** up and show that they understand the gravity of this situation, because right now, they look like a bunch of clowns.

 

[TXCyclones]

All I see is a red X. (Stupid work servers.)

Can anyone give me a summation?

It is an image of a folded letter (semmingly recent) that states:

"The college football world has once again been thrown into controversy. During this time I’d like to remind you again that Penn State is 1 of 2 Division 1 institutions who have never been investigated or sanctioned for any major NCAA infractions.

Think about this as you make you college decision. Coach Paterno’s saying “Success with Honorâ€￾ has value here. It is not something we take lightly.

Think Penn State
Signed Coach McQueary"

I don't know what the date is on this.

 

[Spam]

It boggles my mind that nothing was done. Even if every individual involved was thinking about ONLY his own well-being, he would be better off reporting this to the cops.

Why the hell would, say, a vice president want to save a football assistant coach's *** and in the process risk his own freedom, career, and life. I've tried to put myself in the guy's shoes. Even if I was self-obsessed, selfish ***** who didn't give a crap about the abused kids, why would I not report it?

Child sexual abuse may not be common. But employees of organizations get into trouble often enough (be it DUIs, theft, etc). And these organizations are often quick to fire employees for relatively minor crimes like DUIs. So what the hell went wrong here.

 

[MLawrence]

Can anyone give me a summation?

A letter that states (although I wonder if it was Photoshopped):

The college football world has once again been thrown into controversy. During this time I would like to remind you that...

Penn State is 1 of 2 Division 1 institution who have never been investigated or sanctioned for any major NCAA infractions.

Think about this as you make your college decision. Coach Paterno's saying, "Success with Honor" has value here. It is something that we don't take lightly.

Think Penn State


Coach McQueary

 

[Clonefan32]

Re: Paterno to retire at seasons end

Yeah. If they BOR at Penn State lets him finish out the year I can absolutely see this turning into a complete three ring circus. I hope they do the right thing and force him out today. Like right now. And McQueary (the coach who reported the incident to Paterno in the first place) needs to be removed from the sidelines as well. If they can't justifiably fire him yet, then at the very least put him on administrative lead until they can. Take anyone who has publicly been connected to this whole mess so far and remove them from the campus and the field. Someone at PSU needs to stand the **** up and show that they understand the gravity of this situation, because right now, they look like a bunch of clowns.

I'm concerned they are going to do the same-- try to somehow try to acknowledge his legacy rather than just showing him the door. I can also see them playing the "poor, sad, old man" angle to rouse up some sympathy for him. Honestly, after these awful acts (or omissions, I guess), I'd just rather never hear from him again. Don't try to put some half *** apology out there, don't try to contextualize what you did, just go away. Maybe someday the football world will be able to look back at your success as a coach, but I doubt it.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

Re: Paterno to retire at seasons end

I can imagine 100k students screamed "Pe Do State" everytime PSU has the ball.

If Joe Pa shows up in Madison it will be absolutely brutal. If there is one thing the students do better then drinking in Madison, it is verbally abuse the visiting team. They are the kings of smack talking and they will bring their A-game if Joe Pa shows up. :yes:

 

[cycloneworld]

It is an image of a folded letter (semmingly recent) that states:

"The college football world has once again been thrown into controversy. During this time I’d like to remind you again that Penn State is 1 of 2 Division 1 institutions who have never been investigated or sanctioned for any major NCAA infractions.

Think about this as you make you college decision. Coach Paterno’s saying “Success with Honorâ€￾ has value here. It is not something we take lightly.

Think Penn State
Signed Coach McQueary"

I don't know what the date is on this.

If that's real, what a piece of **** McQueary is for writing that while knowing no one did anything (including him) to a man who he saw raping a 10 year old boy.

 

[jbindm]

Re: Paterno to retire at seasons end

If Joe Pa shows up in Madison it will be absolutely brutal. If there is one thing the students do better then drinking in Madison, it is verbally abuse the visiting team. They are the kings of smack talking and they will bring their A-game if Joe Pa shows up. :yes:

And that's why it's imperative that Paterno and anyone else implicated so far not make that trip. The same misguided youthful energy and passion that brought all those students to JoePa's house last night will manifest itself in a much uglier way if students from opposing schools see him on the sidelines or in the coaching box.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

Re: Paterno to retire at seasons end

Yeah. If they BOR at Penn State lets him finish out the year I can absolutely see this turning into a complete three ring circus. I hope they do the right thing and force him out today. Like right now. And McQueary (the coach who reported the incident to Paterno in the first place) needs to be removed from the sidelines as well. If they can't justifiably fire him yet, then at the very least put him on administrative lead until they can. Take anyone who has publicly been connected to this whole mess so far and remove them from the campus and the field. Someone at PSU needs to stand the **** up and show that they understand the gravity of this situation, because right now, they look like a bunch of clowns.

Seriously.... Paterno stood on his front lawn last night and led students in a "We Are!" "Penn State!" chant. Does Joe Pa even have a freaking clue what is going on right now? It seems to me that his announcement that he will resign at the end of the season is more or less a move on his part to try and beat the BOR to the punch. A why fire the guy if he is going to resign sort of mentality. All Joe Pa has done is cover up for his buddy the pedophile, tell the BOR at Penn State to stick it up their ***, and in a pathetic way salute himself and the fans that are too ignorant to acknowledge the grim reality of the crimes committed on his watch.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

Re: Paterno to retire at seasons end

And that's why it's imperative that Paterno and anyone else implicated so far not make that trip. The same misguided youthful energy and passion that brought all those students to JoePa's house last night will manifest itself in a much uglier way if students from opposing schools see him on the sidelines or in the coaching box.

Based on the lack of responsible leaders at Penn State which we are now all so painfully aware of.... I kind of doubt that they have anyone there that is smart enough to figure that out. :skeptical:

 

[HiltonMagic]

Re: Paterno to retire at seasons end

I agree. This is not about Paterno.

Rick Reilly - The Penn State scandal - ESPN

 

[cyhiphopp]

It boggles my mind that nothing was done. Even if every individual involved was thinking about ONLY his own well-being, he would be better off reporting this to the cops.

Why the hell would, say, a vice president want to save a football assistant coach's *** and in the process risk his own freedom, career, and life. I've tried to put myself in the guy's shoes. Even if I was self-obsessed, selfish ***** who didn't give a crap about the abused kids, why would I not report it?

Child sexual abuse may not be common. But employees of organizations get into trouble often enough (be it DUIs, theft, etc). And these organizations are often quick to fire employees for relatively minor crimes like DUIs. So what the hell went wrong here.

I can only think of 2 reasons.

1) The PSU administration didn't want anyone with that many ties to PSU to be instigated in that big of a scandal. I think this is probably what happened. PSU prides itself so much on being a university of such high standards. Sandusky was nearly as idolized as Paterno, especially right after his retirement. Hell, he was carried off the field after his last bowl game... as a DC!
It seems stupid to me, because in the end, it is worse than if they had outed him immediately.

2) This reason is absolutely heinous, but at this point, anything is possible. It is possible that Paterno didn't want his friend to go to jail. Paterno is bigger than the AD and president at PSU. He made that university what it is today. If he wanted it covered up, that might have been all it took. Call me a tinfoil hat wearing crazy if you want, but I don't think it is an impossibility. I honestly don't think this is what happened though, just a possibility.

 

[rebelcyclone]

What should happen to Sandusky


Sleepers (movie) Revenge scene - YouTube

 

[benjay]

At this moment the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address. I want to make this as easy for them as I possibly can.

Is it just me, or does it seem like he's begging them to let him finish out the season?

 

[FarminCy]

Is it just me, or does it seem like he's begging them to let him finish out the season?

I thought that right away as well. Basically saying don't worry about me and go on with your business.

 

[HILLCYD]

Amazon.com: Touched: The Jerry Sandusky Story (9781582613574): Jerry Sandusky: Books

 

[cyhiphopp]

Re: Paterno to retire at seasons end

I agree. This is not about Paterno.

Rick Reilly - The Penn State scandal - ESPN

This whole ****storm makes me not want to put my kids into sports in the future.

And honestly, I hate Joe Paterno for making it worse.

 

[Die4Cy]

Another thing that makes me sick is that McQueary witnessed it, kept his mouth shut, and ended up getting an assistant coaching job out of it. I know I am thinking the worst here, but it seems like he benefited from keeping his mouth shut. Just sickening.

How could Paterno see McQueary every day for the past 9 years and not think about that day.

And seriously, why the eff did they keep it quiet. Sandusky wasn't coaching there any longer. Yes it would have tarnished Sanduskys legacy, but now it has damned Paterno, and Penn State as well. They had to know that someone could possibly come forward in the future and I can't believe they were stupid enough to not consider that Sandusky would do that to another kid in the future.

As a father of two little boys it makes me literally want to vomit.

NOt only that. There was something in the finding of fact that implied the university lawyer who handled the original complaint was eventually hired and retained to work for Sandusky's charity.

I think we are going to find out that the victims were paid to keep quiet and staff people at Penn State were paid to keep quiet. Sandusky was ushered out the door ("retired") and the university thought they took care of it. Guess not. There was big money in the football program and the charity and big money makes people behave in odd ways.

 

[dschlitter]

Re: Paterno to retire at seasons end

Seems like more was known about this than people thought, the article below is from April of this year...Penn State looks more and more crooked by the minute.


Madden: Sandusky a State secret - Timesonline.com: Mark Madden:

 

[cyhiphopp]

NOt only that. There was something in the finding of fact that implied the university lawyer who handled the original complaint was eventually hired and retained to work for Sandusky's charity.

I think we are going to find out that the victims were paid to keep quiet and staff people at Penn State were paid to keep quiet. Sandusky was ushered out the door ("retired") and the university thought they took care of it. Guess not. There was big money in the football program and the charity and big money makes people behave in odd ways.

Makes sense unfortunately.

And that would be all the more reason for them to cover up for him in 2002. Because if they throw him to the wolves in 2002, then the 1998 cover up comes to light.
McQueary being retained and eventually rising to WR coach seems like a payoff to keep him quiet since one word from him could (and hopefully has) killed the whole university.