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EYEoftheSTORM

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Will Oriakhi be able to play next year or have to sit out? If he would have to sit out a year I'd be willing to take him..

Would be nice to anchor the young team in 2013....
 

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If UConn remains banned from post-season play he would not have to sit out.

Ooooh very nice to hear...

I still highly doubt Oriakhi even considers ISU or Fred considers Oriakhi...

Seems too much like an east coast/ Big East guy...
 

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He went to the same school as Niang. Hoiberg has a shot.
Good point. Did not know this, did Niang and Oriakhi even play any time together?

If they didnt, I dont see this being very relevant. Tilton seems like a school where alot of talented kids come in and out of.
 

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Good point. Did not know this, did Niang and Oriakhi even play any time together?

If they didnt, I dont see this being very relevant. Tilton seems like a school where alot of talented kids come in and out of.

I think Fred's in with the Tilton coach though. Not to mention Oriakhi just saw Hoiberg and Royce up close and personal.

There's always a shot....
 

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I'm a bit concerned about unbalanced classes. If we bring in a one-year guy and another freshman for next season, we'll have 6 new guys for 2013-2014, plus 5 sophomores. And that's if nobody transfers after next season. Mel and Percy would be the only guys with more than a year in the program. Of course all this depends on what is available, but I'd like to see us try to get a JuCo guy with two years of eligibility to replace Royce. If we can find a good freshman to add, then bring him on. If not, take a transfer that still has a year or two of eligibility(even if he has to sit out next year).

That wouldn't completely balance the classes, but we would have them evened out a bit. And we wouldn't be sacrificing much for next year. There are only so many minutes to go around, after all.

But if we're going with the "grab the most talent for right now and let things fall where they may" strategy (which I'm ok with as well), bring in Oriakhi and Lockett (or some similar combination).

At the end of the day, I'll trust Fred and support whatever he decides to do with them.

I agree. Personally, I don't see why they want Lockett. They're loaded with SRs next year and also have a ton of perimeter players. But if they do get Lockett, I'm hoping that the other spot goes to a non-SR big. Either a JUCO or someone like Pelle. Getting BOTH Lockett and Oriakhi would decimate the team after 12-13.
 

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I agree. Personally, I don't see why they want Lockett. They're loaded with SRs next year and also have a ton of perimeter players. But if they do get Lockett, I'm hoping that the other spot goes to a non-SR big. Either a JUCO or someone like Pelle. Getting BOTH Lockett and Oriakhi would decimate the team after 12-13.

That will never happen with Fred in charge.
 

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I agree. Personally, I don't see why they want Lockett. They're loaded with SRs next year and also have a ton of perimeter players. But if they do get Lockett, I'm hoping that the other spot goes to a non-SR big. Either a JUCO or someone like Pelle. Getting BOTH Lockett and Oriakhi would decimate the team after 12-13.

If Royce would have stayed we would likely be in the same position. He would have been gone after next year anyway. Were we going to get production out of Railey or Sledge the next few years? I don't get why we can't bring in people that can contribute immediately to replace people that weren't going to contribute at all....
 

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I agree. Personally, I don't see why they want Lockett. They're loaded with SRs next year and also have a ton of perimeter players. But if they do get Lockett, I'm hoping that the other spot goes to a non-SR big. Either a JUCO or someone like Pelle. Getting BOTH Lockett and Oriakhi would decimate the team after 12-13.

IF (big if there) you had Lockett and Oriakhi you would lose those two plus (McGee, Babb, Lucious, Clyburn, Booker) for a total of 7.

That would basically mean that we would have to find at least 3-4 players that could make an immediate impact. I would suspect that you would see at least 2-3 Juco/transfer players and possibly a big-time HS player that could contribute from day one

It would be a big hit, but we could survive if the FR (Niang, Okoro, SDW, Naz), and you supplemented with 3-4 impact players next year.

Plus you still have Ejim, Percy and Bubu, so all is not lost.

Fred's attitude seems to be win now, and worry about grabbing some players later. So far, that seems to be working.
 

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All the hand-wringing about class balance is redonkulas.


Win and good players will find you.
 

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Im a person who worries about class balance two years down the road. But as we have seen the past couple years, there are always transfer players who can come in and impact right away. Fred is showing that he has the pull to get some of the tops.

That said, I would support taking Lockett (as Chris says - "you can't have enough good guards") and either a post, or a PG who will sit and be eligible in 2013 - like TJ McConnell.
 

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I agree. Personally, I don't see why they want Lockett. They're loaded with SRs next year and also have a ton of perimeter players. But if they do get Lockett, I'm hoping that the other spot goes to a non-SR big. Either a JUCO or someone like Pelle. Getting BOTH Lockett and Oriakhi would decimate the team after 12-13.

Getting both is more likelY to decimate the teams we play. It also fits with Fred's plan to win now to affect recruiting later.
 

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I agree. Personally, I don't see why they want Lockett. They're loaded with SRs next year and also have a ton of perimeter players. But if they do get Lockett, I'm hoping that the other spot goes to a non-SR big. Either a JUCO or someone like Pelle. Getting BOTH Lockett and Oriakhi would decimate the team after 12-13.

You make it seem like Fred is going to recruit a bunch of scrubs for the 2013 class.
 

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People should keep in mind that even though Pelle would be a freshman, he would almost certainly go pro after one year.
 

clonedude

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IF (big if there) you had Lockett and Oriakhi you would lose those two plus (McGee, Babb, Lucious, Clyburn, Booker) for a total of 7.

That would basically mean that we would have to find at least 3-4 players that could make an immediate impact. I would suspect that you would see at least 2-3 Juco/transfer players and possibly a big-time HS player that could contribute from day one

It would be a big hit, but we could survive if the FR (Niang, Okoro, SDW, Naz), and you supplemented with 3-4 impact players next year.

Plus you still have Ejim, Percy and Bubu, so all is not lost.

Fred's attitude seems to be win now, and worry about grabbing some players later. So far, that seems to be working.

I do think you bring up a good point. Not sure I'd really want 7 seniors on the team next year or not.... unless of course we get to the final four or something.

Obviously, if you lose two players that don't appear like they'll ever contribute much, and you pick up two players that will contribute, that has to be a positive, but all these one year transfers I think will come back to haunt you.

If anything, get a transfer that has 2 or 3 years left, that would help dramatically IMO over a one year guy.

I think a good rule of thumb would be that you don't bring in more transfers in any given year than you do freshmen. IMO, as long as you are bringing in more true freshmen each year than transfers, you should be ok. I just don't want to get to the point where we're bringing in 3 transfers and one freshmen or something like that. I don't think that's healthy long term for the program.

I'm not opposed to giving Bubu one of them if we can't find anyone worth bringing in. I don't understand why there's all the hate for this kid? He has in fact deserved a scholarship, that is not even in question in my mind. But if he's willing to be a walk-on so Fred can get more help, that's just frosting on the cake.

But Bubu is deserving of a scholarship, that's not even up for debate. Fred said something to the affect after the Kentucky game that our ability to defend Kentucky's guards down the stretch suffered dramatically when Bubu fouled out. Go back and check it.... that's what he said. He basically said he was our best defender out there that night. If you don't think that kid deserves a scholarship, you're crazy.

But like I said, if Bubu's willing to forgoe the scholarship so Fred can bring in more depth to win more games, that's great.
 

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I don't think Fred is going to sacrifice wins for an easy staggering of classes. Even with only those projected back for the year after next, we have talent. Winning makes it easier to bring in even more that year.

But the winning may not continue at the point where you are depending every single year on finding a diamond in the rough transfer to come in to save you. I think you need to have some younger guys that you are developing at all times.