People certainly have the right to voice their concerns, and if they fell this is unacceptable behavior by an ISU student, then let Mr Leath know.
Albert Gary - charges reduced
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People certainly have the right to voice their concerns, and if they fell this is unacceptable behavior by an ISU student, then let Mr Leath know.
How about let them do their job.
Can't believe this thread is still going; the morons are out in full effect on both sides.
First of all, President Leath has more important things to do. And I'm sure you also lead the pitchfork crowd against Jason Berryman too?
Why worry about something you have zero control over?
Yes. I have children. Their safety is important to me. Yes. Albert Gary was wrong in what he did. It was incredibly stupid. Did Albert Gary harm anyone? Did Albert Gary steal anything?
There are all sorts of opinions whether Albert Gary should be allowed to play. Context is everything and IMO it is the Coach's decision. He knows the circumstances and Albert Gary better than any of us.
In CPR I trust. And if Albert Gary is in uniform for Iowa State I will cheer for him. I think the context of no jail time and probation need to be considered even though the offense is technically a felony. If it is that serious then why not throw him in jail?
Here is the key, those who have concerns may have an impact, either way.
It is called voicing opinions and if many have concerns, especially donors, I guarantee they may get listened to.
Expressing a concern on his playing is not being "pitchfork" There is no need to try and shout down either side of this discussion.
I am fine to leaving it to following university policy, but that does not mean I do not have concerns. It is possible that policy means he may not play regardless.
As I have stated, personally, if the quotes are accurate, it is the attitude and intimidation that concern me the most. My opinion would be adjusted based on all relevant facts and and any humility and remorse shown.
However. to be clear, imho, to say it is just a prank gone wrong, or suit them up unless rape or murder, I can only wonder wow.
It is called voicing opinions and if many have concerns, especially donors, I guarantee they may get listened to.
Expressing a concern on his playing is not being "pitchfork" There is no need to try and shout down either side of this discussion.
I am fine to leaving it to following university policy, but that does not mean I do not have concerns. It is possible that policy means he may not play regardless.
As I have stated, personally, if the quotes are accurate, it is the attitude and intimidation that concern me the most. My opinion would be adjusted based on all relevant facts and and any humility and remorse shown.
However. to be clear, imho, to say it is just a prank gone wrong, or suit them up unless rape or murder, I can only wonder wow.
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Fortunately, I can do as I see fit and voice my concerns as I choose. I encourage other concerned alumnus and donors to do the same. I feel confident that it will have an impact.
Good for you. As an alumnus and donor myself, I am fully confident that the AD and CPR will handle this accordingly, considering that they know more about this situation than any of us. I just feel that a few of vocal m
This is a good way to chase CPR out of town. Gotta support his decision making regarding athletes on his team.
Why would kicking him off the team ruin his life? White's life wasn't ruined by being kicked out of Minnesota. It can actually help some players that fall in with the wrong croud to have a change of scenery and a new start to refocus on what's really important. I don't know Gary's personal situation so I don't know if it would help him or not, just saying that it's not necessarily a career ending situation.
I like CPR and believe he is a good coach, but this is a university issue that goes beyond the athletic dept. CPR is getting paid $20M over 10 years, and he will be just fine. This goes way beyond football.
I bet the most important thing to President Leath today is spending his Easter with family and NOT worrying about how to handle this. It's been handled since before he was named President. As for you reoccurring concern for "central campus", this has no bearing on the decision. Could have happened anywhere on or off campus.....not relevant in any way to how this should be handled.
But it didn`t happen off campus, so this is laid directly at the feet of Steve Leath. I doubt the athletic dept will have any say in what comes next for Mr Gary.
Again, WE ARE and SHOULD BE a place where 2nd chances are given. He had a mental lapse in judgement, give him community service and let him back on the field. We need the kid in the line up anyway. He showed promise at the end of last year. #FREEALBERTGARY
Where it happened is pivotal to how it will be handled. Campus security is the Prez concern. Ask the folks at V-Tech or how about Penn State!!
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So...your suggesting that since it was on campus that some higher standard must be carried out? Prank is a prank regardless of where prank takes place. Steve Leath has more important things to do than to deal with pranks.
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