Has Paul Rhoads run out of gas? Is this the year we lay an egg?
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You sure about that? ISU might have been 7th in passing YPG (big whoop), but we are dead last in comp %, YPA, and pass efficiency. Individually, I can't really see how our QB's stack up because they only list the top 10 in pass efficiency, and neither JB or SJ are on there. Ouch.
KF has done a nice job. No disrespect here. It is easier to recruit to Iowa than Ames and his level of rated recruits reflects it. But, with his supposed better recruits in head-to-head with ISU he is only 6-7. Bottom Line. ISU has done a better job of coaching up it's kids. ISU is the place to go.:realmad::realmad::realmad::realmad::realmad:
So, the 2700 or so Passing Yards and 700 Rushing yards by our 2 QB's is a (big whoop)?
Last time I checked, those were statistics also. Knocking off a huge rival and #2 team in the country is a big deal in Ames. A lot of credit for those wins where put in other places but our QB's did produce in those games..including one of the best outputs by a QB in ISU history. CPR will continue to get it done! Whenever you think about starting a thread like this, always go back over the past several years and ask yourself, "would I rather have the here and now or the past several years?"
Most people agree that Bobby Bowden stayed too long at FSU. He was coasting down the stretch thanks to what he thought was a lifelong deal to be the coach at FSU thanks to his earlier accomplishments, (FYI... having several 7 win seasons at FSU is pathetic considering they are a national power).
To put this in an ISU perspective since we aren't on FSU's level you can look at Dan McCarney. He brought the program out of the toilet, took them to bowl games, etc... and then when he felt he had accomplished enough to secure being the ISU coach for as long as he wanted he started coasting. The results were catastrophic for the program and he got his butt run out of town.
On a similar level that is exactly what happened to Bobby at FSU. His coasting down the stretch led to less then the expected results at FSU and he got his butt run out of town.
Take CPR... he rolls into ISU and takes over a disaster of a program that D-Mac and Chizik left for him and he takes them to 2 bowl games in 3 years (should have been 3 for 3), he is beloved by CycloneNation, just got awarded the fattest contract a football coach at ISU has ever received, and yet still understands that no matter what his results are in the future his job at ISU is never guaranteed. Sounds like a guy that understands his accomplishments early on won't be enough to allow him to coast later on and survive as the head coach at ISU if the results aren't there.[/QUOTE]
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To put this in an ISU perspective since we aren't on FSU's level you can look at Dan McCarney. He brought the program out of the toilet, took them to bowl games, etc... and then when he felt he had accomplished enough to secure being the ISU coach for as long as he wanted he started coasting. The results were catastrophic for the program and he got his butt run out of town.
On a similar level that is exactly what happened to Bobby at FSU. His coasting down the stretch led to less then the expected results at FSU and he got his butt run out of town.
Take CPR... he rolls into ISU and takes over a disaster of a program that D-Mac and Chizik left for him and he takes them to 2 bowl games in 3 years (should have been 3 for 3), he is beloved by CycloneNation, just got awarded the fattest contract a football coach at ISU has ever received, and yet still understands that no matter what his results are in the future his job at ISU is never guaranteed. Sounds like a guy that understands his accomplishments early on won't be enough to allow him to coast later on and survive as the head coach at ISU if the results aren't there.[/QUOTE]
Well put!
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This is not only not true, it's an idiotic perspective. What Mac did was start making disastrous mistakes--and he was operating on such a thin margin that he had no reserve to compensate.
Among them:
A. The horrible decision to focus on JC recruits following the insight.com win.
B. Hiring Marty Fine.
C. Not quite a "decision", but a run of signing three placekickers in a row whose careers were derailed before they ever started--ending with Chris Mahoski, who blew out a knee playing soccer within a few weeks of signing his LOI.
These and others led to an avalanche that brought the house tumbling down. Fortunately, CPR doesn't seem to be making these kinds of mistakes--quite the opposite, he's making great moves that are increasing the margin available.
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I want to punch you in the face you ****. How about you delete cyclone from your user name. Peace *****
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This is what has happened in recent years:
2009 Big 12 Talent:
Texas, OU
KSU, KU, MU, OSU, etc
ISU
2012 Big 12 talent:
Texas, OU,
OSU, WVU
BU, KSU, TCU,
Tech, ISU
KU
So that's what I've been trying to say. We haven't gotten ourselves above average talent-wise, but we have gained a ton of ground on the middle tier which after three years should be the expectation.
2009 Big 12 Talent:
Texas, OU
KSU, KU, MU, OSU, etc
ISU
2012 Big 12 talent:
Texas, OU,
OSU, WVU
BU, KSU, TCU,
Tech, ISU
KU
So that's what I've been trying to say. We haven't gotten ourselves above average talent-wise, but we have gained a ton of ground on the middle tier which after three years should be the expectation.
Some of these people predict 4 wins or less every year and they have now been wrong 3 times in a row. I have no doubt that it will be 4 after this year.
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Thats pretty bad that we almost lost to a team that is less talented than Simpson College.
That fact that fans can't express any less that positive opinions about our football or basketball coaches, without responses like these, drives me crazy. (Maybe I should have posted this under Friday Confessions. )
Kansas showed us they were more talented in 2011 than their 2-10 record indicated. Also, Kansas state is not more talented than we are. They are nearly flawless with their execution, do not commit penalties, and don't turn the ball over. They also were top of the league in field position and they won a ton of close games.
KSU has more talent up and down then we do. Not a lot, but a little. They have Tebow 2.0 and some nice players. That may change in a couple years, but not just yet. KU is not talented at all. They were extremely poorly coached especially defensively. We played awful that game. I would go far as to say it was the second worst performance of the year next to Mizzou.
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