***Official 2013 Bracketology Thread***
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Both teams have a lot of business to take care of, but it would be amazing if we got to meet up in the tourney.. would love to play them again. Very unlikely of course.
Suddenly a few more are starting to think this way. The writing has been on the wall for a few weeks now.
I agree by the way.
They aren't getting in unless they get a ton of help from the bubble. By a ton, I mean a **** load.
Agree.
Even if Iowa won out, that'd pick up at IU and home vs. Illinois as quality wins. Other wins wouldn't boost anything.Still not enough resume overall to get close enough.
I think there are 10 to 12 teams above Iowa below the Next 4 Out level.
depends how they get their wins. If they beat Indiana, then they'll be in.
Here's the problem with your guys' logic on Iowa. Yes, wins are nice. However, the committee really only cares about beating top 50 teams. Iowa has 3 right now if ISU stays in.
Road record of 2-6 is badddd(ISU at 2-7 is a reason why I have them on the bubble/possible first four play-in). Iowa has 1 win against a top 25 team, though Minnesota I feel will drop out. Could be wrong on that.
Both road wins are Northwestern and Penn St. Not good enough. ISU is in same boat.
The difference between ISU and Iowa is that ISU has 2 wins against top 25 teams in the RPI. Also ISU has a much better RPI as of now. Iowa's SOS is weaker than ISU's is.
The argument of Iowa going 10-8 and automatically being in is just false. It's about quality rather than quantity.
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[h=6]Juan (Madrid)[/h]
If Iowa finishes 6-1 in conference the rest of the way making them 10-8 in the bext conference in America are they in the big dance? Of there nine losses, only two would be two teams outside the top 41 of the RPI.)
Joe Lunardi
That would surely do it, Juan. Then again, a 6-1 streak in almost any major conference would work for almost any team. The schedule is favorable, though, I'll admit that...
The highest (lowest) RPI team to get in at large was #67. Iowa (currently 90,) is going to not only have to help themselves but also get help from those above them in the form of reduced SOS/losses and even then they still might not get into the 60's. Unless the committee is looking to **** everyone off and completely blow up historical precedence I don't think Iowa gets in regardless of what their conference record is.
If Iowa goes 10-8 and wins their first game in the BTT, they'll be in. Right now they are on the outside looking in. The committee doesn't use RPI like they used to. Many other factors will be in Iowa's favor including no bad losses lately or at home (@Purdue, @ Va tech(what the hell happened to that team)); wins over Illinois, Minny, Wisky, ISU, NW twice, and even UNI as long as they keep winning; a good conference finish (6th place in the toughest conference in America); and a good record down the stretch. The committee is also now using the "eye test" more in recent years, and Iowa's close losses to Indy, MSU, Wisky, Minny, and even OSU will also be seen. Also, Iowa is 78th in the RPI right now. They go 4-1, they'll be at least in the 60's, possibly 50's.
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Well luckily for them they already have 3, assuming we can stay in there. Plus they'll have a good chance of getting a 4th with a win over Illinois.
committee doesn't care about the bold part.
No chance unless they beat Indiana will it go into the 50's. They beat 13th ranked Minnesota and move from 90 to 78.
I'm not sure if winning the one game in the B1G tourney is really going to help them all that much. From the looks of it right now, Iowa will be fighting with Illinois for either the 7 or 8 seed. If the standings held held now, they'd face either Purdue or Northwester. Beating either of those teams won't move the needle that much. Winning two games? Ya, Iowa probably won't even have to sweat it on Selection Sunday.
Still not sure if Iowa gets in with a 10-8 conference record but it will probably be closer than I originally thought.
Summarizes it pretty well.
I think some people may still view it that Iowa should win most of these games down the stretch, the record would be good while playing in the top-RPI conference.
Iowa's resume right now is hanging on what's becoming a top-50 win that's looking more impressive and nearing top-25 (Wisconsin) and one that's floating (ISU), both at home. To me, what pushes Iowa's resume down is no other win over probable/potential at-large teams. (At least Iowa State has Baylor, and BYU, albeit dwindling)
Key point in bold. You're correct.
Winning two and being in, not as probable.
If Iowa did beat the next opponent after winning 7-10 or 8-9, the following game could make a difference, with a neutral win over one of Indiana, Michigan State, Michigan, Wisconsin. Even that wouldn't help enough unless Iowa gets a big win and avoids bad losses in regular season.
