Santana finally traded!
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I don't like the fact that Peter Gammons said "Not one of these four prospects would be in the Red Sox or Yankees top ten prospects."
That to me is 'screwed'.
Again, hope I'm wrong.
Now we will wait and see if a contract extension can be agreed upon. That will be the real clencher.
I think there's no question he'll be signed. Minaya and the Mets can't have gone this far and then say it's too much money. Santana's agent is the same one as Jose Reyes, too, which can't hurt.
The Twins offered him $100M over 5 years. That's $20M a year, but he wanted a longer contract, and probably more money. I'm not happy with this trade at all. It may turn out to be decent down the road, but I'd rather keep him this year and make a run. Seriously, how do you trade away the best pitcher in baseball for zero proven players? :realmad:
They would have gotten two #1 draft picks if they would have kept him and then lost him to FA after this year. Some Twins fans think this would have been a better outcome.
I hope the Gammons comment is really wrong, because if it is, why wouldn't we take the Boston offer of their young CF and who ever they wanted to throw in? Has to be the money on both ends. Twins didn't did want to pay Ellerby and Co. and the Sox didn't want to pay Santana.
Do you see them going after any free agents with the extra $13mil they now have for next season? Are there any decent ones out there?
And by decent, I mean the opposite of RonDL White, Sidney Ponson, Ramon Ortiz, Tony Batista, Bret Boone, etc.............
Except I don't think they really got anything. From everything I've read and heard thus far... the Twins settled for an offer that is far worse than what was offered in December for Santana.
Not this year there isnt... The top free agents out there would be:
1. Bonds
2. Lohse
3. Livan H
4. Tony Clark
5. Sean Casey
I could see them trying to get Shannon Stewart back and they probably NEED Livan more than anything, to eat some innings... They might also go after a guy like Josh Fogg... Another Free Agent sleeper might be Pedo Feliz, but where do you put him on the Twins...
I think Feliz just signed in the last couple of days with the Phillies to play 3B.
Now that I did not know. Then I would say its a done deal.
I just thought it could be the same type of situation as the Cubs. Give away three players to only loose the guy after the current year. Man what a dumb move!
If the Twins could have got Martinez or Pelfrey included in this deal then I would have been okay with it, as it is right now, not the right deal. Personally I was never a big fan of the Boston deal, Hughes from the Yankee's had me very interested but the rest of that deal was pretty weak as Melky is a pretty good but not going to be all star CF and Ian Kennedy= Kevin Slowey. The Mets if they had included Martinez would have been the best deal but they didnt and that one player is huge. Part of this is based on the fact that evidently Santana said "trade me now or never", and if that's the case its a pretty **** move.
Even so I don't like the deal the prospects Twins get back are all high ceiling ones, if a bit further away than those offered in other deals. While the Twins could have competed for the Central this year, 2009 or 2010(the way things are setting up for that year could be special, we have our core under contract thru then, almost no one up for free agency and some of our exciting players in the lower minors should be ready by then) was probably more realistic anyways. Bad deal but life goes on and even with the deal Twins shouldnt be terrible, just not that good, my bet is another around .500 record maybe better depending on how Boof and Liriano do(the biggest question marks I'd say in the rotation)
Even so I don't like the deal the prospects Twins get back are all high ceiling ones, if a bit further away than those offered in other deals. While the Twins could have competed for the Central this year, 2009 or 2010(the way things are setting up for that year could be special, we have our core under contract thru then, almost no one up for free agency and some of our exciting players in the lower minors should be ready by then) was probably more realistic anyways. Bad deal but life goes on and even with the deal Twins shouldnt be terrible, just not that good, my bet is another around .500 record maybe better depending on how Boof and Liriano do(the biggest question marks I'd say in the rotation)
I don't see why everyone is so down on Humber. He just came of Tommy John surgury and was 10th in ERA, 4th in K's and 1st in WHIP in the hitter friendly PCL league. The PCL ERA as a league was 4.67. I like his chances.
Mulvey as well, he had good, not great numbers in double A. Remember, it was his first season of professional baseball.
Both of those pitchers have low WHIP numbers and decent strikeout numbers. Neither one will probably be an ACE, but they'll fill out the staff nicely. I like our chances of finding a nice rotation out of Liriano, Baker, Bonsor, Slowey, Duensing, Blackburn, Perkins, Mulvey and Humber. Thats 9 guys to fill 5 slots. If Liriano comes back slow, we won't have an ACE, but Baker turned the corner last year and a slimmed down Bonsor could be very nice.
Mulvey as well, he had good, not great numbers in double A. Remember, it was his first season of professional baseball.
Both of those pitchers have low WHIP numbers and decent strikeout numbers. Neither one will probably be an ACE, but they'll fill out the staff nicely. I like our chances of finding a nice rotation out of Liriano, Baker, Bonsor, Slowey, Duensing, Blackburn, Perkins, Mulvey and Humber. Thats 9 guys to fill 5 slots. If Liriano comes back slow, we won't have an ACE, but Baker turned the corner last year and a slimmed down Bonsor could be very nice.
