IOWA vs IOWA STATE

Rural

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Playing four games against the Washington Generals will get your hopes up.
 

Cincyclone

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It's a lock by Iowa if you listen to Iowa fans. They are fnal four bound. They are beating everybody by 60 or better.

On the contrary, most on HN seem pretty pessimistic about their chances, and all think it will be close.
 

mikem

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This is the first year it made a shred of sense for Iowa to play anybody non-conf and they are. I think they've been wise previously. Fans argue the weak non-conf kept them out of NCAA play last year without realizing a strong non-conf would have also pegged them some more losses when the team was still really young at some key positions.

Just last April and March all you heard on KXNO was how tough Iowa's schedule was compared to ISU when in reality they were nearly identical sos ranking. Heard some of it two years ago too when reality was the SOS was the same but that year there was no doubt from Iowa fans that ISU had a much better team. Even a lot of local media would wrongly talk up Iowa's SOS over ISU.


It's especially pathetic when you realize that there may be no school in a BCS conference who has benefitted from an easy schedule than ******* iowa football.

All of these moron hawk fans (whoa redundancy), try their little brains out to pretend that big ten fb has been even average the last 15 years. But then whine and complain because they have such a tough bb conference, of course they played the easiest schedule possible last year but that is beside the point.

There really is not a more hypocritical fanbase than these moron hawks. The first to cast stones, when they do as much bad ****, if not more, than other schools.
 

NATEizKING

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39-16 At home in the Fran McCaffery Era

8 wins and 8 of those losses came in the first year with just a terrible team. Leaving 31-8 (.79) in the last three years.

Hoiberg:

13-6 year one at home
17-2 year two
17-1 year three
3-0 so far
50-9 total (.85)

Obviously Hilton is a better home court advantage, but lets not pretend like Carver is the easiest place to win in the world.

I'm catching up so I'm hoping somebody commented on this, but you can't take out Fran's first year and not take out Fred's.

Fran: 31-8 (.79)
Fred: 37-3 (.925)

With Kansas screwjob apology actually meaning something 38-2 (.95)
 

deanvogs

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It's the same way we feel tonight. Altitude, 20k fans, team averaging 97 ppg. If you told me I could have 2 wins among Mich, @BYU and Iowa I'd be thrilled. Losing @ISU won't be a big deal to Iowa if they can win a game or two in the Atlantis thing. If they get bounced early from that, @ISU is a bigger game for their resume.

The thing I like about BB, is that this game isn't make or break it for either team. That isn't always the case with FB, but it can be. I think both teams being good in BB is fun, and good for the state.

I agree that if Iowa struggles in Atlantis, beating ISU would be big for them. If they do win 2 in Atlantis, it isn't as big deal. Iowa right now will have 8 games against top 20 RPI teams in conference, and 11 games against top 30 RIP teams. They will have plenty of chances in conference play.
 

Rural

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The thing I like about BB, is that this game isn't make or break it for either team. That isn't always the case with FB, but it can be. I think both teams being good in BB is fun, and good for the state.

I agree that if Iowa struggles in Atlantis, beating ISU would be big for them. If they do win 2 in Atlantis, it isn't as big deal. Iowa right now will have 8 games against top 20 RPI teams in conference, and 11 games against top 30 RIP teams. They will have plenty of chances in conference play.



Franian slip?
 

CyTwins

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The thing I like about BB, is that this game isn't make or break it for either team. That isn't always the case with FB, but it can be. I think both teams being good in BB is fun, and good for the state.

I agree that if Iowa struggles in Atlantis, beating ISU would be big for them. If they do win 2 in Atlantis, it isn't as big deal. Iowa right now will have 8 games against top 20 RPI teams in conference, and 11 games against top 30 RIP teams. They will have plenty of chances in conference play.

Who cares about RPI? Everyone knows that's outdated and doesn't matter...KenPom, Sagarian, NY2LASports.com, ESPN's BPI, etc are way better sources to judge teams plus my eye test is never wrong (did I do that right?)
 

NATEizKING

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No, 13-6 is a good record so I included it. Don't let the persecution complex kick in!

I don't want to keep ragging on because I know you probably realize why everyone jumped on that but:
13-6 = .68
That'll bring down a .925 average when it's nearly 1/3 of the data.
 

deanvogs

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Who cares about RPI? Everyone knows that's outdated and doesn't matter...KenPom, Sagarian, NY2LASports.com, ESPN's BPI, etc are way better sources to judge teams plus my eye test is never wrong (did I do that right?)

Sorry, actually you are right, I was talking about the Sagarian ratings anyway, not RPI
 

deanvogs

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Franian slip?

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Cincyclone

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Who cares about RPI? Everyone knows that's outdated and doesn't matter...KenPom, Sagarian, NY2LASports.com, ESPN's BPI, etc are way better sources to judge teams plus my eye test is never wrong (did I do that right?)

The Selection Committee which makes it, regrettably, relevant.
 

HFCS

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The Selection Committee which makes it, regrettably, relevant.

I think RPI is sometimes better than KenPom. Kenpom is great for predictions and certain analysis but as far as ranking teams in terms of the quality of their wins I don't agree with a lot of it. It seems weighted to value defense more than scoring, early in the year it uses some guesswork methods using returning players without a reliable way to measure who is replacing them.

Sagarin is better than either in my opinion in terms of who actually deserves to be above who. But I think late RPI can sometimes be more rational and pure than Kenpom. Kenpom's anomaly of having a Wisconsin team ranked top 5 all years a few years back when nobody else had them anywhere near that is much worse than any anomaly I've seen RPI have late in a season.
 

CyTwins

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I know you are pocking fun at Iowa fan, but you seriously think that the RPI is a better measuring stick than those others you listed?

I think by not getting into this argument with you I will make a lot of people happy that they don't have to read it
 

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