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What Iowa State needs is an offensive coordinator with complete autonomy to run the offense and to decide who the quarterback will be without interference from the head coach.

If they hire from within I expect the same dysfunctional mess going forward. Rhoads reminds me of Mike Singletary, good defensive coach with no clue about offense but too much of a control freak to keep his hands off those things he doesn't understand.
 

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If he is going to be the OC, why not announce it ASAP so recruits who have given verbals can be reassured?

Because Iowa st. Is a public institution and by law the job has to be posted for minimum of two weeks before anyone can be hired. That's why.
 

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Question: Why would we hire an OC to run an offense that Klenakis invented?

Spent some time last night reading through Ault pistol offense articles and what came through MOST often is Klenakis was the guy explaining it and teaching it. K has so much more experience as an OC and success at that position than anyone realizes. Petrino thought enough of him to take him to Arky to work on their running game. He was a finalist for the head gig at Nevada. His philosophy has evolved over time with different teams and different athletes and different needs.

If he was coming in cold - as others have said - this IS the splash hire.

People should take a spin through the interweb information that can be found on K.
 

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What Iowa State needs is an offensive coordinator with complete autonomy to run the offense and to decide who the quarterback will be without interference from the head coach.

If they hire from within I expect the same dysfunctional mess going forward. Rhoads reminds me of Mike Singletary, good defensive coach with no clue about offense but too much of a control freak to keep his hands off those things he doesn't understand.

If Rhoads does give it to Coach K, then let him do his thing and don't micro manage him to death. Rhoads seems to know very little about offense, so he should keep his hands off for the most part IMO.
 

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The problem with hiring coach K and moving more toward a kstate offense and pistol all the time is that the strength of this team moving forward is at WR. Next season we might arguably have one of the most talented wr core in the conference and we will be running the pistol.
 

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I was always under the impression Ault was calling the plays at UNR? Can someone confirm Coach K was actually the playcaller?

And secondly, enough with the Sage as a coach talk. My god, I'm sick of hearing it. It's not happening. Period.
 

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What Iowa State needs is an offensive coordinator with complete autonomy to run the offense and to decide who the quarterback will be without interference from the head coach.

If they hire from within I expect the same dysfunctional mess going forward. Rhoads reminds me of Mike Singletary, good defensive coach with no clue about offense but too much of a control freak to keep his hands off those things he doesn't understand.

I'm afraid this may be spot-on.
 

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I do agree with you. The lack of calls to beat the blitz and to beat a defense with all 11 guys within 10 yds of the line of scrimmage was ridiculous. We only threw the ball downfield this year when we got down BIG. Against Iowa in the 4th quarter, and against WV after we got down 31-7. And it worked both times.

Maybe having Coach K call the plays would have helped? I guess it couldn't have hurt. I just fear that Coach K probably loves the read option since Kaepernick was so good at it. That part scares me to death. Sam and Grant are no Colin Kaepernick. Maybe this Darius Lee-Campbell is though. But I doubt if he comes in and starts as a true freshman.

Not that I don't disagree with you but to throw the deep ball your qb typically needs some time to allow the receiver to get down field. With how decimated the line was this year, I'm not sure our qb's had enough time before being flushed out, rushed, sacked, or whatever to find a wr let alone one down field. I think this will be much improved if the line can stay healthy next year.
 

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Not that I don't disagree with you but to throw the deep ball your qb typically needs some time to allow the receiver to get down field. With how decimated the line was this year, I'm not sure our qb's had enough time before being flushed out, rushed, sacked, or whatever to find a wr let alone one down field. I think this will be much improved if the line can stay healthy next year.

but you will never know if you never try.look up ensteins stupidity Theory
 

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The problem with hiring coach K and moving more toward a kstate offense and pistol all the time is that the strength of this team moving forward is at WR. Next season we might arguably have one of the most talented wr core in the conference and we will be running the pistol.

This also concerns/puzzles me. But at the same time a good OC should be able to identify that and be willing to put the ball in the air more often if we have a QB good enough to do that. I think if Richardson or Rohach are starter, we will see a much different offensive run-pass ratio than if it's Lanning, Hodge, or someday possibly DLC.
 

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I see that Austin Flynn has Grand View in the National Title game after beating Morningside today 35-0. I wonder if he'll get looked at for QB coach.

I just don't get those of you whom think Flynn would be a good fit here. I mean he wasn't a great QB, hence his move to WR. Now yeah he had to compete with Meyer who in my opinion was the Best QB that we have had post Seneca, but still!

What, other than Grandview which is not even close to D1 level completion, makes you think he would succeed here?
 

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Some of the best coaches were very mediocre players. Most of the great players make horrible coaches. (Which is why I think a lot of us were weary of hiring Fred for bb but he is the exception rather than the rule.)
 

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I just don't get those of you whom think Flynn would be a good fit here. I mean he wasn't a great QB, hence his move to WR. Now yeah he had to compete with Meyer who in my opinion was the Best QB that we have had post Seneca, but still!

What, other than Grandview which is not even close to D1 level completion, makes you think he would succeed here?

An important reason that Rhoads has had a successful climb up the coaching ranks is that he was exposed to a coaching perspective 24/7 growing up with his dad as a football coach.

This is a more important experience than many realize and Flynn has the advantage of having had the same background when he was growing up.
 

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SpokaneCy, I don't know exactly what is was, but those articles made me a lot more comfortable with coach k being OC.
 

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I just don't get those of you whom think Flynn would be a good fit here. I mean he wasn't a great QB, hence his move to WR. Now yeah he had to compete with Meyer who in my opinion was the Best QB that we have had post Seneca, but still!

What, other than Grandview which is not even close to D1 level completion, makes you think he would succeed here?

It doesn't matter the type of player you were when it comes to coaching. Mark Mangino never even played college ball. From a friend who plays on GV, Flynn is an awesome coach. This is coming from a kid who's dad is a very successful head coach in the junior college ranks.
 

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I just don't get those of you whom think Flynn would be a good fit here. I mean he wasn't a great QB, hence his move to WR. Now yeah he had to compete with Meyer who in my opinion was the Best QB that we have had post Seneca, but still!

What, other than Grandview which is not even close to D1 level completion, makes you think he would succeed here?

I'm not sure that Austin would succeed here but he is an interesting person. He came to Grand View as a position coach and was elevated to OC very quickly. Mike Woodley evidently saw his potential. Grand View's offense was decimated by graduation and Austin had to about start from scratch. He did and two seasons later he is undefeated and in the National Championship game. Austin is a very smart hard worker. He was able to switch from QB to WR at Iowa State and be very successful at it. He runs a very up tempo type offense that he has learned from Iowa State and has tweaked it along the way.

He started coaching at the High School level in Houston and after the first year was made defensive coordinator. Two separate coaches realized his potential and immediately elevated him to a coordinator's spot. Those accomplishments I think makes him a person who deserves a closer look. Evidently he is a person who does not mess around, but jumps in and with hard work and smarts just succeeds. Reminds me of another successful coach that we have.

Austin Flynn - Iowa State University Athletics Official Web Site - www.CYCLONES.com - The home of Iowa State Cyclone Sports

I had originally not paid any attention to him until his name came up in this thread. I got to checking him out online and came upon this article:

The Grand Views : Flynn moves to Iowa; brings family, offense with him

That raised my eyebrows a bit. He might just fit into the ISU system as a QB coach. And then there is this:
Update on Former Iowa State Cyclone Austin Flynn | Go Iowa State - Iowa State Apparel, Cyclone Merchandise, ISU Clothing

Anyone with a wife that hot has to have something going for him!:yes:
 
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An important reason that Rhoads has had a successful climb up the coaching ranks is that he was exposed to a coaching perspective 24/7 growing up with his dad as a football coach.

This is a more important experience than many realize and Flynn has the advantage of having had the same background when he was growing up.


Good point. We might mention that Fred's grandfather was a coach and I believe that Jeff Hornacek's dad was a coach also.
 
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