Media Butthurt over CPR and Lazard
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I totally agree with this, and hopefully he will learn from it.
But I am not going to crucify him over it.
This will all be settled the next time a five star kid in state commits early to Iowa. Someone on the highest rated sportscast in the state will call them the Iowa Squawks, then a few weeks later the same individual ask the recruit on the air 20 times in one interview why he doesn't dump Iowa for a better program. You and the local media make it seem like that's very likely to happen, then when it does happen I'm sure all Iowa fans and local media will gladly claim that zero members of the media have any slightest distaste for Iowa.
Paul never said anything about negative recruiting, he just said they both wasted their money. He was just rubbing it in their faces. Childish? Yes. Hilarious? Yes. Even funnier seeing Iowa fan's/the media's reaction? You bet.
Don't blame them if they did. But perhaps it's how they recruited Lazard. Maybe they said things like, "Iowa State is historically a nothing program and nothing is going to change that -- not Paul Rhoads or J. ****** himself. You will be wasting your talent there."
That would tend to tork me off -- especially if some of the people doing the recruiting were co-workers and friends at one time.
Then you really don't know what's speculation and what isn't. You don't follow Lazard, how do you know what was said then, to say people are speculating.
I love this quote. Another Hawk fan comparing Iowa and Alabama as the programs are peers. Anyone outside of Iowa would be as dumbfounded as to why a recruit would choose Iowa over Alabama. Don't fool yourself. just look at how many times when ISU is playing you hear an announcer say, Iowa State Hawkeyes, etc. I'd give you teams like Illinois, Michigan State, probably even Nebraska now, But Iowa is not on par with Alabama. The only place where Iowa is considered a powerhouse program, is Iowa. Iowa is definitely a historically better program than ISU, but they are much closer to ISU on a national level than they are to Alabama.
I'm not going to deny that Iowa has a superb reputation of putting guys in the NFL. But at the moment, ISU has one receiver on and NFL roster and Iowa has 1 receiver on an NFL roster. That's not necessairy a huge difference at that position. Plus now, with Mangino signing on, I'd say the potential to excel as a receiver at ISU could be considered a little better than at Iowa.
Absolutely.
Still I'm not sure you use a public forum to vent. I'm an Iowa fan but I'm not up in arms with him making the recruiting comment because it is what it is. Neither Iowa nor ND nor any other school in the country, including ISU, are doing anything wrong to continue to recruit committed kids. Maybe back in the day there was an unwritten rule that you don't do it but not anymore. But negative recruiting is never acceptable but you take the high road, IMO. I would hope that if someone on Iowa's staff was negative recruiting, that CPR would get on the horn and rip KF a new one. He'd deserve it. But that's how I would do it. Not in the media. And again that's assuming the comments stemmed from negative recruiting. We don't know for sure.
If it was a "na na na boo boo" moment? Meh. OK I guess.
I like how Iowa squealed like a pig to the media and Big XII schools during the locker room theft. Only to find out it was an Iowa student! Another classic moment of Iowa class! Meh.
The story got weeks and weeks of coverage, when the truth became "Iowa student steals from Iowa football team" move along, nothing to see here. Screw the local media.
The way we're covered by national media outlets could not be more of a contrast. Pretty much every day there's a national story about Hoiberg's program, even during Iowa games on ESPN. Turn to the local media when you want invented fake negative stories about ISU, not for anything else.
Okay this is my first post on CF, although I have thoroughly enjoyed the forums for the two years. I have decided to finally jump on and give my two cents on a subject that I view as overemphasized. He simply stated that the two programs wasted time and money on a recruit that has stayed loyal despite heavy recruiting from ND and Iowa and scrutiny for his decision from the media and I am sure pressure from other sources. It was obvious that the kid had no intention of changing his mind, yet they continued to recruit the kid. Does it make CPR angry that they did so? I highly doubt it considering that it is part of the game, but I do believe that it relieved a great deal of stress to have AL's signature on NSD. My belief is that the media and Iowa fans are upset because CPR laid down some truth in the press conference. It is a bit of a tough pill to swallow when your team with higher accolades loser to a less prestigious program in the recruitment game. It is the same kind of meltdown that you will see here on CF tomorrow if RV decides to commit to UNLV. But the difference is that the Clone fans won't try to justify their butthurt outside of the CF walls. At least I like to believe that will be the case.
Summary -- Sorry ND and Iowa, you lost on this one. CPR stated that you wasted your time and money on a recruit that was already decided. The truth sometimes stings.
Summary -- Sorry ND and Iowa, you lost on this one. CPR stated that you wasted your time and money on a recruit that was already decided. The truth sometimes stings.
ISU sure wasted a lot of money on the recruitment of Jeff Jones. I wonder if Kill called out the media for asking Jones questions about his recruitment???
KidSilverhair
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Wow. I could enjoy myself for hours just finding all the ridiculously overblown reactions by posters here.
Where do you find any of this in Rhoads' words? Was he crowing a bit over snagging a four-star recruit from the likes of Notre Dame and Iowa? Sure. What makes that "incredibly distasteful" or "stupid and whiny"? And where, ANYWHERE, in what he said, do you see evidence of calling anybody out for negative recruiting? That's right ... nowhere. But you yokels keep bringing it up, because somebody somewhere else said that must be what motivated Rhoads to spout his "distasteful," "arrogant," "immature" words.
Here's the biggest angle I see, mainly from the media. And I use our friend Hawkaholic's words again to make the point:
Indeed, it probably did - including several members of the media, who were actively rooting over the past 14 months for Lazard to go somewhere else. I think it's particularly "hypocritical" (to borrow a word) for the media tasked with covering a state institution football program to actually try to undermine that program's recruiting, then get all huffy when they are called out on it.
and from Hawkaholic alone:
Where do you find any of this in Rhoads' words? Was he crowing a bit over snagging a four-star recruit from the likes of Notre Dame and Iowa? Sure. What makes that "incredibly distasteful" or "stupid and whiny"? And where, ANYWHERE, in what he said, do you see evidence of calling anybody out for negative recruiting? That's right ... nowhere. But you yokels keep bringing it up, because somebody somewhere else said that must be what motivated Rhoads to spout his "distasteful," "arrogant," "immature" words.
Here's the biggest angle I see, mainly from the media. And I use our friend Hawkaholic's words again to make the point:
Indeed, it probably did - including several members of the media, who were actively rooting over the past 14 months for Lazard to go somewhere else. I think it's particularly "hypocritical" (to borrow a word) for the media tasked with covering a state institution football program to actually try to undermine that program's recruiting, then get all huffy when they are called out on it.
