ISU vs. CU postgame thread

[kingcy]

In retrospect, should we have redshirted Wesley?

I vote yes.

No. He will only play 2 more years as a Cyclone. He isnt 100% and still one of the best players in the conference. There are only 2 sophmores on this team and if it stays that way in 2010 there will be only 2 open spots. One spot is already taken, there is a guard in Ames that some would like to take the other. The staff has to have options for filling those spots and right now there really isnt much they can do but wait on him or another good player.

 

[Landshark]

One thing I worry about is recruiting. Imho, we need to go to post-season play soon (very soon) or good players aren't going to want to come here. We need some kind of hope next season or GMac may be in a hole he can't get out of. Man I pray I'm wrong.

 

[cybsball20]

After watching this game I really think that shooting is NOT the number one thing we need to bring in. What we need is someone who can take it to the rack and finish (Stinson, Tinsley). It really seems like every other team in the conference has one, but we don't. It puts alot of pressure on teh D and will not fail you as often as relying on the jump shot.

 

[kingcy]

One thing I worry about is recruiting. Imho, we need to go to post-season play soon (very soon) or good players aren't going to want to come here. We need some kind of hope next season or GMac may be in a hole he can't get out of. Man I pray I'm wrong.

With the amount of underclass men he has now and will have next year he should be ok for a bit. The team should will only lose 7 guys the next 3 years. Yes it will be a set back but not a program killer just yet. If they dont make post season by WJs sr year we may have to worry a bit. It they dont make the NCAAs by CBs sr year than we worry. If they dont make the NCAAs by the class of 08s sr year that is a program killer.

 

[Cyclonepride]

The team should will only lose 7 guys the next 3 years.

After the last two years, you must be one optimistic S O B. I like it:yes:

 

[kingcy]

After watching this game I really think that shooting is NOT the number one thing we need to bring in. What we need is someone who can take it to the rack and finish (Stinson, Tinsley). It really seems like every other team in the conference has one, but we don't. It puts alot of pressure on teh D and will not fail you as often as relying on the jump shot.

Isnt it easier to get to the rack if you have guys that are threats from 3? DG needs to get stronger so he can finish better. He looks to be getting the nack of when to go, he just has to finish. This team only really has 2 guys that can score a lot of points, you stop or slow them and its over for ISU. Most good teams have atleast 4 guys that can score a lot in any given game. Having shooters makes it so hard to defend and it is pick your posion for the D, at this point ISU doenst have that.

 

[kingcy]

After the last two years, you must be one optimistic S O B. I like it:yes:

I said should.

 

[cybsball20]

Isnt it easier to get to the rack if you have guys that are threats from 3? DG needs to get stronger so he can finish better. He looks to be getting the nack of when to go, he just has to finish. This team only really has 2 guys that can score a lot of points, you stop or slow them and its over for ISU. Most good teams have atleast 4 guys that can score a lot in any given game. Having shooters makes it so hard to defend and it is pick your posion for the D, at this point ISU doenst have that.

It is, but there are also guys out there that can take it to the rack whenever they want. The scariest thing for me is the thought of having a team that relies on the jumpshot. It's just not a proven way to win alot of games at this level.

 

[CrossCyed]

It is, but there are also guys out there that can take it to the rack whenever they want. The scariest thing for me is the thought of having a team that relies on the jumpshot. It's just not a proven way to win alot of games at this level.

It's the way we're going to have to win out of this offensive system right now.

 

[kingcy]

It is, but there are also guys out there that can take it to the rack whenever they want. The scariest thing for me is the thought of having a team that relies on the jumpshot. It's just not a proven way to win alot of games at this level.

Very good point.

 

[CrossCyed]

I have nothing wrong with 95% of the negative posts and posters. Most of them are correct in what they say. What I hate is when people come here and do noting but rip on ISU and the program. Saying we suck and it will never get better isnt doing any good but to get ohters upset. These players and coaches have friends and families (the players themselves even come here) that read these boards, why do they need to see a post that says we suck. The players and coaches are working their butts off to get better, we as fans could cut them a little slack now and then. Everyone knows all the pieces are not in place yet.
There are a few some posts here about players the posters have never saw play. There are some posts about the team that are nothing but negative and question the coaches every move. Sure you can question it but at some point the coach has to be right about something. I think there are some fans that want to see the team fail so they can say I told you so. Some fans find a negative in anything and dwell on the bad not the good. There are some that cannot see the big picture. There are some fans that take ISU winning and losing way to seriously. We all know there are problems with this team but the way some people post there comments just strike a nerve with others at times.

I think part of it is there are a handful of posters who either crucify anyone who doubts what's being done at ISU or are basing their posts on nothing more than a gut feeling. Like I've said before, I was never a fan of the McDermott hiring. That's old news. There's absolutely nothing I want more than to be proven wrong. I just don't see how people can blindly say that he WILL succeed. Or that he WILL fail. There's not a whole lot to base either on.

There's just a lot of people like me that can't just buy into blind optimism. And it gets annoying to be told "don't worry. everything's on the right track."
I don't doubt that the coaching staff will put in the work to try and make things happen, but I need to see appreciable developments before I can decide either way, and I'd say there's posters here that are the same way.

 

[kingcy]

I think part of it is there are a handful of posters who either crucify anyone who doubts what's being done at ISU or are basing their posts on nothing more than a gut feeling. Like I've said before, I was never a fan of the McDermott hiring. That's old news. There's absolutely nothing I want more than to be proven wrong. I just don't see how people can blindly say that he WILL succeed. Or that he WILL fail. There's not a whole lot to base either on.

There's just a lot of people like me that can't just buy into blind optimism. And it gets annoying to be told "don't worry. everything's on the right track."
I don't doubt that the coaching staff will put in the work to try and make things happen, but I need to see appreciable developments before I can decide either way, and I'd say there's posters here that are the same way.

I agree McD hasnt done much to prove himself at ISU. In the end it is all about wins and losses. There are always going to be doubters. McD wasnt the huge name hire and I can see why some didnt like the hire. But he does have a good track record at taking programs to new highs. He did great things at UNI and now that his touch is wearing off that programs it is really showing. I dont agree with everthing he does but it is more his team. He may not make it at ISU, but I think he has an eye for talent, develops players, and has a good system once everything is in place. He has said it will take 2 1/2 years to get it all in place. I think we owe it to him to get to year 4 before we go crazy over if it worked or not.

 

[CrossCyed]

I agree McD hasnt done much to prove himself at ISU. In the end it is all about wins and losses. There are always going to be doubters. McD wasnt the huge name hire and I can see why some didnt like the hire. But he does have a good track record at taking programs to new highs. He did great things at UNI and now that his touch is wearing off that programs it is really showing. I dont agree with everthing he does but it is more his team. He may not make it at ISU, but I think he has an eye for talent, develops players, and has a good system once everything is in place. He has said it will take 2 1/2 years to get it all in place. I think we owe it to him to get to year 4 before we go crazy over if it worked or not.

I think you give him the length of his contract to show progress. Still doesn't mean we can't be critical.

 

[coachdags]

It's the way we're going to have to win out of this offensive system right now.

I hate Mac's offense.....

But then I get offended if he tries to tell me how to cook a cheesburger or pour a beer....

Funny thing is, we both have achieved some level of success.....:wink:

 

[CrossCyed]

I hate Mac's offense.....

But then I get offended if he tries to tell me how to cook a cheesburger or pour a beer....

Funny thing is, we both have achieved some level of success.....:wink:

To be fair, your balance has been a little off on your burger flips.

 

[coachdags]

To be fair, your balance has been a little off on your burger flips.

It's the knee reconstruction I had in the other thread....sorry

 

[kingcy]

I think you give him the length of his contract to show progress. Still doesn't mean we can't be critical.

One more thing. Being a fan is suppose to be fun. Its not life or death. Its to take you mind off other things for an hour or two. I guess I dont have fun when I think about everything negative. Winning is fun and losing isnt fun. But at times like this you have to look beyond the loses and hope for better things in the future. If not what fun is it being a fan.

You can be critical all you want but its the way things are worded that get some people up in arms (like saying never and suck). It would be nice to get a good comment out of a few posters.

 

[CrossCyed]

One more thing. Being a fan is suppose to be fun. Its not life or death. Its to take you mind off other things for an hour or two. I guess I dont have fun when I think about everything negative. Winning is fun and losing isnt fun. But at times like this you have to look beyond the loses and hope for better things in the future. If not what fun is it being a fan.

You can be critical all you want but its the way things are worded that get some people up in arms (like saying never and suck). It would be nice to get a good comment out of a few posters.

That's why I've got a blog and why I post here....to get out the stuff I don't like.

It's a LOT easier for someone to complain. It's easy to do.

To one end though...I'm one of the people who pays for season tickets. I have at least some interest in what's going on.

 

[cyclonenum1]

I love disagreement. It brings about great discussions and debate.

I despise sniveling, whining and regurgitation of the same complains - again and again - at the first sign of trouble.

Two questions for you...

What is your thought on all of the opining to "give it time" and "wait until next year"...do you despise hearing that "again and again"?

Do you think we are just now seing the "first sign of trouble" in the program under McDermott?

 

[cyclonenum1]

The thing is, you lose credibility when you ONLY have negative posts.

But the coach doesn't when he has negative results?

Oh, by the way, my posts are not negative. Why do some of you find it offensive (or "negative") to have the coach questioned...especially with the results we are seeing?