Iowa State vs South Carolina

[twocoach]

Yeah, and no one wants to lose in the Hilton. One can justify losing at the phog but isu doesn't have the name brand yet.
It's the same thing as KU not playing WSU.

That's not it at all. I have stated over and over and Bill Self has stated over and over that Kansas likes to play games against teams from other parts of the country to continue to expand their recruiting base. It does them more good to bring in a West Coast or East coast team for their one game a year at Sprint Center than it does to play Wichita. Last year's opponent in KC was New Mexico. This year's is Utah. Two seasons ago was Davidson. Etc...

Road trips this year are to Temple (in Philly where we pulled the Morris twins from) and to Georgetown (in DC where we pulled Thomas Robinson from).

Kansas isn't losing any Wichita recruits to Wichita State because they lose a game to them. One plays in a joke conference that plays inferior competition and is never on tv while the other plays tough competition and is on tv every night. Both ISU and Minnesota are in major conferences playing good teams and both are on tv about an equal amount. Highlighting who is a better team would in my opinion have more of a negative effect on the loser in an ISU-Minny series than it would in a KU-WSU series.

 

[twocoach]

Don't you have better things to do than post in our forum, yet not make a single valid remark all while being a Jayhawk troll and tool?

Like I said, feel free to join the conversation and offer your opinion on the topic... if all you have to offer is silly name calling then it is you that is offering no valid remarks. We'd all love to hear what you think about potential non-con games.

 

[Thomasrickj]

Like I said, feel free to join the conversation and offer your opinion on the topic... if all you have to offer is silly name calling then it is you that is offering no valid remarks. We'd all love to hear what you think about potential non-con games.

This game is better than playing a nobody, but South Carolina in a neutral site that isn't part of a tournament seems a bit of a waste. There are plenty of mid-majors that we can play that would help our resume more than South Carolina.

 

[CyArob]

I'm fine with the schedule right now considering we will be without McKay for the first semester and we are actively trying to set up home and homes that other teams are too scared to agree to.

 

[mctallerton]

This game is better than playing a nobody, but South Carolina in a neutral site that isn't part of a tournament seems a bit of a waste. There are plenty of mid-majors that we can play that would help our resume more than South Carolina.

Most of the mid-majors that would help us would either want a return game or a big pay day. We are playing a power conference team in an area where we are targeting multiple recruits and getting paid to do it. I dont see the downside to this.

 

[QCCyclone]

That's not it at all. I have stated over and over and Bill Self has stated over and over that Kansas likes to play games against teams from other parts of the country to continue to expand their recruiting base. It does them more good to bring in a West Coast or East coast team for their one game a year at Sprint Center than it does to play Wichita. Last year's opponent in KC was New Mexico. This year's is Utah. Two seasons ago was Davidson. Etc...

Road trips this year are to Temple (in Philly where we pulled the Morris twins from) and to Georgetown (in DC where we pulled Thomas Robinson from).

Kansas isn't losing any Wichita recruits to Wichita State because they lose a game to them. One plays in a joke conference that plays inferior competition and is never on tv while the other plays tough competition and is on tv every night. Both ISU and Minnesota are in major conferences playing good teams and both are on tv about an equal amount. Highlighting who is a better team would in my opinion have more of a negative effect on the loser in an ISU-Minny series than it would in a KU-WSU series.

So it sounds like you're saying ISU should be playing better teams, and then you named a list of crappy teams that Kansas has played/will play for geographic exposure. That is exactly what this game does for ISU. So by your logic, isn't this game better for ISU than a game against, say, Wisconsin where we're geographically close and already have a solid recruiting presence?

 

[twocoach]

So it sounds like you're saying ISU should be playing better teams, and then you named a list of crappy teams that Kansas has played/will play for geographic exposure. That is exactly what this game does for ISU. So by your logic, isn't this game better for ISU than a game against, say, Wisconsin where we're geographically close and already have a solid recruiting presence?

Does ISU also play Kentucky and Florida next year like Kansas does? Come on, man.

 

[MuseumFaux]

I like this match-up and location. I feel that in a year or two, with continued success, ISU will start to have quite a few more options when it comes to scheduling important games with top tier opponents in the non-con. The atmosphere and hype surrounding the Michigan/ISU game this last year was awesome and I feel that the energy is building in the right direction for those sorts of games to become more frequent. ISU isn't in a big market, but the fan base is certain to represent well in KC for CBE and if we represent well in Brooklyn for this game (i.e. make some money for those involved with this sort of thing) the balance will start to tip.

Sure coaches like Izzo and Self are willing to take risks and schedule challenging teams in their non-con, but are you going to schedule a challenging team to a home and home, or even neutral site, that assures you a bigger payday or a team that is on the rise and might be a bigger challenge but isn't a guaranteed money draw yet?

I admit that I may not have the full grasp of the situation. I personally believe that what Fred has started to build here is special and we should be able to draw top tier competition, but I also believe that it will take at least a couple more years of consistency at this high of level before the big money promoters start to clamor for those marquee match-ups with ISU being one of the names on that marquee.

 

[mctallerton]

For ****s sake how have you let this troll take over the thread, and seriously twocoach how big of an asshat do you have to be to spend this much time arguing on an opponent's board.

 

[QCCyclone]

Does ISU also play Kentucky and Florida next year like Kansas does? Come on, man.

You're right, I wonder why Fred keeps turning down the offers to play such teams. You're so oblivious. As others have stated a thousand times, ISU doesn't have the brand name to get these opponents on a regular basis yet. Therefore we did the best we could and got a game against a major conference opponent in a solid recruiting area.

I just spent like 10 minutes looking through your posts... I don't think there's enough bandwidth for me to reply to all of the stupid so I'm going to leave this thread alone now.

 

[BallSoHard4Cy]

Does ISU also play Kentucky and Florida next year like Kansas does? Come on, man.

If you wanna remain on this board I suggest you get a little smarter.

I'm sure ISU would love to play Florida and Kentucky in a home and home. Florida and Kentucky don't want ISU in a home and home.

 

[CyKings]

I for one am glad we added another high major opponent... but I still want one that is similar in caliber to what Michigan was last year for us. Iowa away, SC on a neutral court, Arkansas, and our Thanksgiving Tournament all have "decent" games, but nothing that really make a big Splash in my book. Nothing that makes me feel like I need to buy tickets the day they go on sale to get them.

 

[twocoach]

If you wanna remain on this board I suggest you get a little smarter.

I'm sure ISU would love to play Florida and Kentucky in a home and home. Florida and Kentucky don't want ISU in a home and home.

Jesus ****** you guys are slow today. The point being that Kansas already has two games scheduled against elite ncaa tourney bound teams so they don't need to go schedule MORE of them. This was in reply to the guy dogging on KU scheduling for signing series with teams in advantageous recruiting locations instead of tourney caliber teams. My point is that KU already HAS those ncaa caliber teams (UK & Florida) booked via the Champions Classic and the Big 12 SEC Challenge so they don't need to sign up for more of them. KU got burned out last year by facing 6 of their 13 non-con games against teams that made the tourney and 4 of the 7 that didn't won at least 20 games last year so they were no slouches either. My mistake for giving you guys credit and assuming that you could connect those dots. I'll explain everything over and over for you since it appears to be necessary.

Come on, folks. I know it's the off season but seriously.

 

[TranCytive]

I wonder how hot tucos mom is, probably not that hot, but you never know.

 

[twocoach]

If you wanna remain on this board I suggest you get a little smarter.

I'm sure ISU would love to play Florida and Kentucky in a home and home. Florida and Kentucky don't want ISU in a home and home.

If I wanna remain on this board? Oh, OK. What is this, internet threats? Good grief. Don't virtually punch me...

And I am simply suggesting that there are 60+ other teams out there that will be bound for the ncaa tourney and I am 100% confident that some of them would gladly take a home/home series with ISU. Lots of teams out there that would be a good series. Lots of teams looking to get on a national stage more prominently just like ISU.
Go back and look at the huge number of really great non-con games played in the last two years. Tourney teams are going on the road and playing good teams. It is happening all the time. If you really believe that ISU is somehow the only team in the country that everyone is afraid to play on the road then you are shameless homers. Everyone else is getting these games.

 

[JohnnyFive]

I wonder how hot tucos mom is, probably not that hot, but you never know.

Would

 

[TranCytive]

Is tuco a girl? Or just living at home with his parents in their basement? I don't really know which it is. Also I bet his mom isn't that hot, now that I've been thinking about it a while.

 

[CyArob]

Can we just get a trollcoach opt-in forum (or ban him)? He's already on my ignore list, but you people keep quoting him...

 

[twocoach]

You're right, I wonder why Fred keeps turning down the offers to play such teams. You're so oblivious. As others have stated a thousand times, ISU doesn't have the brand name to get these opponents on a regular basis yet. Therefore we did the best we could and got a game against a major conference opponent in a solid recruiting area.

I just spent like 10 minutes looking through your posts... I don't think there's enough bandwidth for me to reply to all of the stupid so I'm going to leave this thread alone now.

If it takes brand name to get these games then how did:
Wisconsin and UConn get a series with Florida?
San Diego State and Michigan get a series with Arizona?
New Mexico, San Diego State, Temple, Colorado and Georgetown get a series with Kansas?
Kansas State get a game with Gonzaga?
George Washington get a game with Kansas State?
Marquette get a home game with Ohio State?
Colorado get a game with Baylor?

The list is endless. It doesn't have to be against Duke, Carolina or Kentucky. There are tons of excellent teams out there.

 

[CoKane]

This thread officially sucks.