The Jerry Kill Comparison

CyBobby

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LOL. Using your twisted logic we have a damn good team. We beat Iowa.....so every team Iowa beat, we beat as well.......and by 3 more points than Iowa did. LOL.

If the Iowa Choke Eyes are soooo gooood how did they ever lose to the worst team in the bigxii @ HOME.

Im waiting for an answer Choke Eye Fans.....
 

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The only thing that proves is that he can win at a lower level...Where did Bobby Stoops head coach before he got to Oklahoma ditto Barry Switzer.

If Iowa State fans really want to win a lot of football games then get out of the big xii and find an easier schedule.

Thats what I have been saying, move to the Mountain West, AA, or MAC
 

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If the Iowa Choke Eyes are soooo gooood how did they ever lose to the worst team in the bigxii @ HOME.

Im waiting for an answer Choke Eye Fans.....

Upsets happen all the time in all sports. The IOWA game means a whole lot more to ISU then it does to IOWA, IOWA has the overall advantage 40-22. I used this example earlier. LSU won the NT with a 12-2 record. They lost to Kentucky #17 and an unranked Arkansas team. Does anyone think that the either of those two teams is better then LSU in this yr.? I doubt it.
 

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Upsets happen all the time in all sports. The IOWA game means a whole lot more to ISU then it does to IOWA, IOWA has the overall advantage 40-22. I used this example earlier. LSU won the NT with a 12-2 record. They lost to Kentucky #17 and an unranked Arkansas team. Does anyone think that the either of those two teams is better then LSU in this yr.? I doubt it.

apples to oranges. it's not an "upset" when two bad teams play and one is marginally better on that day than the other. When ISU beat Iowa in '02 and Iowa went on to go 11-1, that would be considered an upset. this year, not at all. And stop with the "game means more to ISU than it does with Iowa". that's nothing more than BS rhetoric your fanbase uses to rationalize losing consistently over the past decade and a half to a team you feel is beneath you.

Iowa is the primary benefactor of getting to play in the softest half of the weakest BCS conference in college football this year. congrats on going .500 with that schedule. huge accomplishment!
 

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Upsets happen all the time in all sports. The IOWA game means a whole lot more to ISU then it does to IOWA, IOWA has the overall advantage 40-22. I used this example earlier. LSU won the NT with a 12-2 record. They lost to Kentucky #17 and an unranked Arkansas team. Does anyone think that the either of those two teams is better then LSU in this yr.? I doubt it.

But when you get beat 10 out of 17 times in recent history, it means ISU is the better program, clearly. The Iowa game only means more to ISU for one reason....Iowa is perennially one of the easiest games on our schedule that we normally have to win it to go Bowling because most of the rest of our schedule is one of the top 5 hardest in the nation year in and year out. Iowa can lose the game and still win the weak *** Big 11. That's not our problem, that's Iowa's. Take a mediocre Iowa team out and replace it with a real team and our schedule probably IS the hardest in the nation in most years. Not because its our Super Bowl as you Egomaniac, Self Absorbed, Idiotic Iowa fans fail to realize. It's because you are easy pickings.
 

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apples to oranges. it's not an "upset" when two bad teams play and one is marginally better on that day than the other. When ISU beat Iowa in '02 and Iowa went on to go 11-1, that would be considered an upset. this year, not at all. And stop with the "game means more to ISU than it does with Iowa". that's nothing more than BS rhetoric your fanbase uses to rationalize losing consistently over the past decade and a half to a team you feel is beneath you.

Iowa is the primary benefactor of getting to play in the softest half of the weakest BCS conference in college football this year. congrats on going .500 with that schedule. huge accomplishment!


#44 IOWA losing to #103 ISU is an upset in everyones book. Soft conference please.. Big 10 40 National Titles, Big 12 has 19. ISU has had 6 winning seasons, zero double digit win seasons, zero conference titles, zero Jan. Bowls. ( in the Ferentz era ) meanwhile IOWA has had only 4 losing seasons, 4 double digit win seasons, 2 conference titles and multiple Jan. Bowls. Then Stanzi has won 3 as qb, that is the entire win total for ISU.. Facts show ISU not even close..
 

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But when you get beat 10 out of 17 times in recent history, it means ISU is the better program, clearly. The Iowa game only means more to ISU for one reason....Iowa is perennially one of the easiest games on our schedule that we normally have to win it to go Bowling because most of the rest of our schedule is one of the top 5 hardest in the nation year in and year out. Iowa can lose the game and still win the weak *** Big 11. That's not our problem, that's Iowa's. Take a mediocre Iowa team out and replace it with a real team and our schedule probably IS the hardest in the nation in most years. Not because its our Super Bowl as you Egomaniac, Self Absorbed, Idiotic Iowa fans fail to realize. It's because you are easy pickings.

You have to be drunk already to even think of let alone believe this garbage. Look at an earlier comment comparing the two side by side during Ferentz era. NO ISU does not play the 5th hardest yr in and out. Their SOS right now is in the low 40's while IOWA is in the low 50's... ISU #103 and IOWA #44. Yes it is ISU superbowl. I live 10 miles from Ames and have all my life. Know Ia City very well. It is the main goal for ISU..
 

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#44 IOWA losing to #103 ISU is an upset in everyones book. Soft conference please.. Big 10 40 National Titles, Big 12 has 19. ISU has had 6 winning seasons, zero double digit win seasons, zero conference titles, zero Jan. Bowls. ( in the Ferentz era ) meanwhile IOWA has had only 4 losing seasons, 4 double digit win seasons, 2 conference titles and multiple Jan. Bowls. Then Stanzi has won 3 as qb, that is the entire win total for ISU.. Facts show ISU not even close..

Conference history has what bearing on the current state of the big ten? The big ten is extremely soft these days. Pretty much anyone familiar with college football agrees on that. and program history has nothing to do with ISU being better than Iowa THIS YEAR.

By your logic, Minnesota is 100x the football program that Iowa is and is a national power. After all, they've won 7 National Championships.

You're either making a concerted effort to troll or you're 13. I can't put my finger on exactly which quite yet.
 

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You have to be drunk already to even think of let alone believe this garbage. Look at an earlier comment comparing the two side by side during Ferentz era. NO ISU does not play the 5th hardest yr in and out. Their SOS right now is in the low 40's while IOWA is in the low 50's... ISU #103 and IOWA #44. Yes it is ISU superbowl. I live 10 miles from Ames and have all my life. Know Ia City very well. It is the main goal for ISU..

oh, you're from boone. That explains everything

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86 yard TD run by JT Barrett. That's embarrassing.


Easy now. No one claimed they'd win this game. Don't throw rocks if you live in a glass house....or something

I think there is good debate in here until the derp came in for the last 4-5 pages
 

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Please understand that was one of our "fans" that does nothing but find reasons to complain without acknowledging all of the reasons for the way things are the way they are. You have many many of those too.

As far as competing in the b1g, it would be much much much much much much much much much much much MUCH easier for Iowa State to compete with and beat with any sort of regularity the indianas the purdues the illinois and yes the minnesotas than what we currently have.

THAT is a fact, which cannot be disputed. Does that mean we will win, no. Just that it will be easier.

I can agree ISU would be able to compete as no one scores many points outside of OSU and MSU is pretty solid too.
 

sqfuzzy

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I gotta say, hawkedup has made many many posts in this thread and as a fellow Iowa fan, I haven't read a single one.