Rhoads would have started miller, irving, coe, bundrage, rogers, and dagel.
(That's why our team is so young btw)
How does Rhoads do it?
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Rhoads would have started miller, irving, coe, bundrage, rogers, and dagel.
(That's why our team is so young btw)
Your 100% right on here. Fact of the matter is we were inches away in all three of those games...just a play here or there in each and we win them. Then we'd be hosting a wounded WVU team at JTS for bowl eligability this weekend in a sold out stadium.
Fact is, we didn't win them. We are stuck in the situation we are in and there's no getting out. But the people that think the program is just totally off the rails just doesn't want to look objectively at the season. They'd rather vent their rage on the internet. It's easier for them to rage against a coaching staff that had to recruit southern kids to a school most had never heard of during a time they couldn't even say for sure what conferene they'd be in (the current jr./sr. classes).
They wonder why we have such ****** upper classman depth while totally ignoring or forgetting the recruiting environment at ISU during the years in which they were recruited. Then when we reach on JUCO guys and it doesn't pan out, which happens everywhere, they get blamed too. Sucks man, I wouldn't want to coach football at ISU...it's a death trap. Our coaching staff is really, really good...they've won everywhere they've been....but ISU. Hmmm, but they can't coach a lick....
That would be a fresh take for him.
It should shorten the press conferences as well.
This thread is ridiculous. Rhoads's "excuses" are just things that are part of the problem this year. Some of them are his fault, some of them are not. There are enough reasons to be upset with the guys performance that you shouldn't have to make up stuff, and if you are making up stuff then you are either a desperate person who needs a life or an idiot incapable of intelligent conversation.
Coe Irving and Rogers are on Rhoads. Miller just happened well after problems arise. What about his JUCO LB recruit?
Coe and Irving are Rhoads's fault? Was he not supposed to recruit them at all? Was he supposed to let them stay on the team? Was he supposed to coach them better so they wouldn't do those things?
That's the frustrating part, yes all 3 of those games were very winnable. If we can make a 4th and 1 against K-State we win, but we have no big back to replace Woody (like David Johnson). Who's fault is that? Maybe Lanning could be used as that big back in those situations instead of doing nothing on the bench all year. Against Texas we let receivers get behind us twice in 22 seconds because the D looked completely unprepared for that situation. We had no players in a deep zone to keep the receivers in front of us, and who's fault is that? Against TTech the holder mishandled a couple of snaps and we missed a couple of field goals. We've got about 6 qb's on the team, and why isn't one of them holding snaps? That cost us a game against Nebraska several years back and the coaches didn't learn from it. I had high hopes for CPR coming in but some major mistakes have been made in recruiting, use of personnel, and game situations. Nobody said it would be easy to win at ISU, it will take a very sharp coach and staff. I just think it's becoming more evident that we may not have one. Obviously CPR will be here next year, there's no way we could afford to make a move this year. He's lucky in that regard as he would be gone almost anywhere else. I'm sure he will have next year to make a major bounceback and if not, then he will still walk away an extremely wealthy man and we can get somebody else to sell hope again.
He took the risk on their character. He is the one who offered them scholarships. Ultimately, that is on him.
Who else could it be on? How could you excuse him for taking those guys in and them failing him?
That added to having absolutely no backup plan, especially at CB2 and DT, it's on him.
I think a better question would be "dmclone, have you paid any attention in the past 2 years?"
That stuff happens to every coach. There are enough legitimate reasons to criticize the guy that you shouldn't have to stretch to things that simply happened that he didn't necessarily have a ton of control over.
There is no room for objectivity and facts on this board at the present time. I appreciate that you at least thought about it and tried to educate, but you are dealing with people that think that a new coach and his "winning" attitude will solve all the problems.
Think about where we were as an AD when these kids that are seniors were being recruited.
Yes they signed players at those positions, some were not good enough because they were the best we could get when we were going to the Mountain West. Some flamed out because they were reaches and risks that a desperate coaching staff had to take to fill in holes that were left after almost being demoted.
Iowa State is not in a position where they don't have to take risks to upgrade talent, sorry. Mac had to do it, Chizik did it, and of course CPR has as well.
I get that reality is not high on the list of the drizzlers, who are stuck on fire the coach loop. I agree he should be gone, because it is important to capitalize on the SEZ, and a favorable home schedule.
But it doesn't matter. No guy with a super bright future will look at what's here and say "yeah that is a committed school." The guy we get, will face the same problems that all Iowa State football coaches face, tiny budget, location, tradition, etc.
Change that stuff, and then you can really see a change in the program's performance. Since you can't move the campus, then you best deal with changing the culture, and giving the guy what he needs to get this thing going.
You have to take calculated risks to win anywhere. That's why the coaches are paid so much. To calculate correctly.
Absolutely. Maybe next year before the season starts he will give us a heads up to just how many freshman are going to start so we can adjust our expectations accordingly.
If memory serves me correctly, people were pretty pleased that we got both Coe and Irving at the time they signed. And were pretty pleased with the results on the football field. Rhoads could have let their conduct slide and allowed them to keep playing. At least give Rhoads some credit for standing up for principle and kicking them off the team for their poor conduct. Contrast that with other schools and how they turn the other way when players conduct themselves poorly.........cough......Jameis Winston.....cough.
And what, exactly, was in Coe and Irving's history that suggested that they would be booted off the team for bad conduct. Enlighten us. And also tell us all the other recruits which may be conduct risks......since you seem to have a feel for predicting these things.
