Greenberg Tweet on McKay

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You're correct. Greenberg evidently believes that a guy has to be able to shoot the three to play in Fred's system. That's not true. Shooting the three helps, but it's not a make or break for being able to score effectively.
If you add McKay who needs to be close to the rim, then you add McKay's defender close to the rim as well. Suddenly spacing the floor to open easy drives to an unguarded rim is nullified. If you take McKay and send him out to the perimeter to pull his man out there then you have a guy that basically is guaranteed not to be guarded which leaves his defender free to basically play center field and wit to block shots. Suddenly, the "five guys that can score from anywhere on the floor" goes out the window. McKay will be a big help on defense but he will bog down the offense at least some.
 

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Greenberg's probably the only person in this thread that has sat at an ISU practice and watched the kid play.

Greenberg hasn't seen an ISU practice. Rothstein has however. And he's been pumping up McKay return all year. His comment is so uneducated when u think about it. Right now Niang is our post mostly and it's hurting him on defense and also Niang is being guarded by the biggest post. McKay takes over that roll and Niang moves to the 4 which is his natural position and moves hogue to the 3 which gives us Beast mode. There is absolutely nothing wrong with gaining a 6'10 super athletic post who runs the floor like a deer with a 7'4 wingspan on defense.
 
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If you add McKay who needs to be close to the rim, then you add McKay's defender close to the rim as well. Suddenly spacing the floor to open easy drives to an unguarded rim is nullified. If you take McKay and send him out to the perimeter to pull his man out there then you have a guy that basically is guaranteed not to be guarded which leaves his defender free to basically play center field and wit to block shots. Suddenly, the "five guys that can score from anywhere on the floor" goes out the window. McKay will be a big help on defense but he will bog down the offense at least some.

If you think Hoiberg is going to plug in McKay to sit at the low post for 35 second every possession, then you haven't watched enough #hoiball
 

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If McKay can dunk some ally oops, rebound and alter shots, and run, that is my expectations for him. My further expectation is that monte Morris will not lead the team in blocks. If McKay can shoot the 3 and dribble drive than woah buddy, but that is not required for him to be a success.
 

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If you add McKay who needs to be close to the rim, then you add McKay's defender close to the rim as well. Suddenly spacing the floor to open easy drives to an unguarded rim is nullified. If you take McKay and send him out to the perimeter to pull his man out there then you have a guy that basically is guaranteed not to be guarded which leaves his defender free to basically play center field and wit to block shots. Suddenly, the "five guys that can score from anywhere on the floor" goes out the window. McKay will be a big help on defense but he will bog down the offense at least some.

It means Fred may have to adjust some sets, but that won't be an issue. We don't play a ton of five man out anyway. I'm much more concerned with whether or not a player can put the ball on the floor from the three point line and get to the rim than whether or not they can shoot the three. On top of that, it's not like scoring is an issue right now.
 

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If you add McKay who needs to be close to the rim, then you add McKay's defender close to the rim as well. Suddenly spacing the floor to open easy drives to an unguarded rim is nullified. If you take McKay and send him out to the perimeter to pull his man out there then you have a guy that basically is guaranteed not to be guarded which leaves his defender free to basically play center field and wit to block shots. Suddenly, the "five guys that can score from anywhere on the floor" goes out the window. McKay will be a big help on defense but he will bog down the offense at least some.

In a normal college bball offense yes. Under Hoibergs offense...No. U think Hoiberg is suddenly going to have McKay just standing in the lane? U don't know Hoiball then. Our offense runs just fine with Edozie in there and he has no outside game. As much as I love Edozie effort he has hands of steel and struggles catching passes a lot. McKay is the opposite. Guess we will all find out. It will take 3-4 game just to get him in game shape. People suddenly seem to forget that we have the Mayor as our coach.
 

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If you think Hoiberg is going to plug in McKay to sit at the low post for 35 second every possession, then you haven't watched enough #hoiball
Put him on the perimeter where he is a 0% threat to score and then wonder why he can't get to many rebounds. There you go...
 

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In a normal college bball offense yes. Under Hoibergs offense...No. U think Hoiberg is suddenly going to have McKay just standing in the lane? U don't know Hoiball then. Our offense runs just fine with Edozie in there and he has no outside game. As much as I love Edozie effort he has hands of steel and struggles catching passes a lot. McKay is the opposite. Guess we will all find out. It will take 3-4 game just to get him in game shape. People suddenly seem to forget that we have the Mayor as our coach.

Wait so McKay wont just stand on the left block with his arms in the air facing the basket waiting for a rebound? I am not sure I agree with this Hoiburgs guy's offensive philosophy.
 

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I just don't understand where this opinion even comes from. Did he recruit McKay? Go to a lot of Indian Hills basketball games? Watch a lot of his film?
 

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McKay:

Some of the things I read I screenShot and tell them to have that same energy when they are WRONG

Especially if they never seen me play

 

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Put him on the perimeter where he is a 0% threat to score and then wonder why he can't get to many rebounds. There you go...

Yep lets just have him sit 35 feet from the basket so he is out of the way, or better yet how about we enact the old 6-6 rules and he isnt allowed to cross half court. I did hear about this new offense they are running out west called a pick and roll. I am not too familiar with it but I think it may be promising.
 

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Put him on the perimeter where he is a 0% threat to score and then wonder why he can't get to many rebounds. There you go...

If only there was an offensive set you could run on the perimeter to get points with out needing a jump shot...

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In case Seth and anyone else needs a tease. And this is over two years ago. He's grown a lot. Dude is an energizer bunny, like Edozie, he just keeps running and hustling. while I don't see him shooting a lot of threes if he's allowed to and does well crap just as well start the final four talks. But I agree with others in that if he can provide a defensive spark, affect the rim defensively and score 6-8 pts and grab 6-8 reb a game well then I'm all good.

[h=3]6'8 Jameel McKay Sophomore Season HIGHLIGHTS at Indian Hills ...[/h]www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eay753ze5QQ
 

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If I had to guess, I'd venture that Greenburg's source is an old Marquette coach. Obviously something didn't mesh between McKay and that staff for him to want to transfer out so quickly. Perhaps they just didn't know how to utilize him, and it made him look incompetent in their eyes. Fred seems to expect good things out if McKay, therefor I do too.
 

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It's funny how Tuco has no clue what he's talking about but he talks like he does. I'm not going to pretend like I know exactly what's going to happen since this is his first crack at big boy basketball. If he's effective down low he could command attention from defenders, which could free some guys on the outside for a kick out. And there is no doubt he will be a huge asset on the defensive side of the ball as well as O and D rebounding.
 

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didn't fraschilla and greenberg watch practice earlier this year? i think cyclonembb tweeted out a pic a while back. fran said something about mckay going hard all the time too. mckay must've just not had a good practice that day or something. no big deal.
 

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Yeah, I bet Fred doesn't know how to incorporate an athletic 6'10" forward into the offense. Go Huskers...oops it's December...I mean go Jayhawks.
 

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