Official 2015 Hoiberg NBA Speculation Thread

[Smallz0r]

I agree with your premise that if JP agrees to this, he is agreeing to TJ as the next coach.

I do not agree that TJ would be a good choice for where we are in the program, I have stated my opinion in other posts, but if JP, who knows more than me, wants to take that risk then I will still write the checks.

Fred back for only one year is not good for the program long term and I am developing a disagreement with JP's statement that Fred has earned the right to look at NBA opportunities. If Fred's dream starts affecting my dream of a good Cyclone BB program long term, then he should go now, not next year. Starting to seem selfish on Fred's part to me.

I understand that people don't think it would be a 'sexy' hire for a coach, but when do we want to stop being a stepping stone? How do we know he's a bad coach if he's never given the chance to prove himself? It seems he has his hands all over the program doing lots of things, I think if the people in the know JP included think he's a good candidate, then I'm all for it.

I think he has the ability to be a good coach, has the ties to ISU where he could be a good long-time coach since he lacks the appeal that Fred does to go above and beyond. I think he has all the makings to build a solid program that could last for a long time.

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't think it would be a terrible move. The guy has gone out of his way to help out ISU in case something were to happen to Fred, so in my eyes if he is the candidate that he's made out to be, the guy deserves a shot.

 

[Sparkplug]

It kind of weirds me out how everyone knows Pagie's life. Is that odd to anyone else? Maybe it's readily available information, but still....

Not strange if you follow high school track

 

[mkleve44]

Could it come true?

Big Georges @BigGeorgesISU · May 19

#hoiberg accepts 3 yr deal with twolves. No word on Thibs. TJ made interim HC. Hornacek to ISU in 16-17.

 

[Gunnerclone]

How did the #1 pick change anything? They were a lock for #1 or 2 back in early April.

We've known from day 1 that Fred's lifelong dream is to pick Jahlil Okafor #1 in the NBA draft.

 

[Judoka]

Could it come true?

Big Georges @BigGeorgesISU · May 19

#hoiberg accepts 3 yr deal with twolves. No word on Thibs. TJ made interim HC. Hornacek to ISU in 16-17.

No, that's a fake twitter account

 

[Cyclonestate78]

Can you even imagine how bat **** crazy the fans will be next year if he does come back thinking its the last year? People will be losing their **** over every turnover. And if it results in anything less than an elite 8 run will be a total failure.

Didn't you visit any game threads on CF? This is already happening. It's why I choose to stay as far away from CF when a game is going on as possible.

 

[rholtgraves]

I understand that people don't think it would be a 'sexy' hire for a coach, but when do we want to stop being a stepping stone? How do we know he's a bad coach if he's never given the chance to prove himself? It seems he has his hands all over the program doing lots of things, I think if the people in the know JP included think he's a good candidate, then I'm all for it.

I think he has the ability to be a good coach, has the ties to ISU where he could be a good long-time coach since he lacks the appeal that Fred does to go above and beyond. I think he has all the makings to build a solid program that could last for a long time.

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't think it would be a terrible move. The guy has gone out of his way to help out ISU in case something were to happen to Fred, so in my eyes if he is the candidate that he's made out to be, the guy deserves a shot.

1) why do people think TJ would be long term if he succeeds? He has less ties to ISU and Ames than Fred.
2) TJ is not some martyr for coming to ISU. He did it for his own selfish reasons, to get better opportunities to be a head coach than the ones he was going to interview for. He didn't do it to help ISU.

 

[ISU42]

Why do people keep posting parody/irrelevant twitter accounts?

 

[wonkadog]

We've known from day 1 that Fred's lifelong dream is to pick Jahlil Okafor #1 in the NBA draft.

That only became his lifelong dream after his former lifelong dream of running the floor with Shawn Bradley flamed out.

 

[kyle22kjs]

Fred takes the Timber wolves job next year and drafts Monte Morries, and brings in Royce White to start his NBA coaching career. Still "hoping" we see him in Ames till his youngest are out of high school, but I'm doubting that happens anymore.

 

[Tre4ISU]

So, if you're JP and Fred indicates that he's coming back for one more, but you're like a lot of us and believe this would be a better year to leave, do you ask to up the NBA buyout knowing full well that that may turn him off (even though it should since he won't be paying it) or do you just take what you'll make off the program next year and deal with the rest later maybe in hopes you get him to stay again. Recruiting will be non-existent next year if he comes back. There is just no way anyone will think he is staying barring a huge contract or something like that. I know how most will answer this but I think it's a legitimate decision to make if you're JP. If Fred comes back, then leaves, this job will not be attractive and whoever the guy is will have probably 2-3 years of rebuilding to do.

If it's me, I have no idea. The whole problem is next year couldn't just be a great year, it could be a multiple banner year and we've never dealt with something like that so maybe it's worth up to even 5 years of little success.

 

[mkleve44]

No, that's a fake twitter account

It was a joke on my end also.... I would think that a cutout of Georges Niang is a fake account. Guess I should have put the

 

[Wesley]

Why do people keep posting parody/irrelevant twitter accounts?

THey think it might be funny or they want to get someone's goat.

 

[cycloneworld]

1) why do people think TJ would be long term if he succeeds? He has less ties to ISU and Ames than Fred.
2) TJ is not some martyr for coming to ISU. He did it for his own selfish reasons, to get better opportunities to be a head coach than the ones he was going to interview for. He didn't do it to help ISU.

Plus he already left ISU as an assistant for a lateral position (and that's being generous) at UW.

 

[isutrevman]

No, that's a fake twitter account

I think he knows that.

 

[rholtgraves]

The idea that stepping down now rather than a year from now is better for the program doesn't make any sense to me. if you hand the team over to TJ and it turns out he isn't a good head coach and fails with a stacked team, who the heck is going to want to come play for him?

 

[ianoconnor]

1) why do people think TJ would be long term if he succeeds? He has less ties to ISU and Ames than Fred.
2) TJ is not some martyr for coming to ISU. He did it for his own selfish reasons, to get better opportunities to be a head coach than the ones he was going to interview for. He didn't do it to help ISU.

Not saying much.

 

[Gunnerclone]

So, if you're JP and Fred indicates that he's coming back for one more, but you're like a lot of us and believe this would be a better year to leave, do you ask to up the NBA buyout knowing full well that that may turn him off (even though it should since he won't be paying it) or do you just take what you'll make off the program next year and deal with the rest later maybe in hopes you get him to stay again. Recruiting will be non-existent next year if he comes back. There is just no way anyone will think he is staying barring a huge contract or something like that. I know how most will answer this but I think it's a legitimate decision to make if you're JP. If Fred comes back, then leaves, this job will not be attractive and whoever the guy is will have probably 2-3 years of rebuilding to do.

If it's me, I have no idea. The whole problem is next year couldn't just be a great year, it could be a multiple banner year and we've never dealt with something like that so maybe it's worth up to even 5 years of little success.

Take your chances next year and pray for a Final Four and pray that there's a big shakeup in the current NBA situation if yoar JP.

 

[Smallz0r]

1) why do people think TJ would be long term if he succeeds? He has less ties to ISU and Ames than Fred.
2) TJ is not some martyr for coming to ISU. He did it for his own selfish reasons, to get better opportunities to be a head coach than the ones he was going to interview for. He didn't do it to help ISU.

No one knows if he would be long term, but he has a lot better chance of it than someone with no ISU ties. Also, from what Jeremy stated he seems to have came for the right reasons and if that ends up resulting in a chance to be a head coach, then I think he is deserving.

 

[CycloneGB]

So, if you're JP and Fred indicates that he's coming back for one more, but you're like a lot of us and believe this would be a better year to leave, do you ask to up the NBA buyout knowing full well that that may turn him off (even though it should since he won't be paying it) or do you just take what you'll make off the program next year and deal with the rest later maybe in hopes you get him to stay again. Recruiting will be non-existent next year if he comes back. There is just no way anyone will think he is staying barring a huge contract or something like that. I know how most will answer this but I think it's a legitimate decision to make if you're JP. If Fred comes back, then leaves, this job will not be attractive and whoever the guy is will have probably 2-3 years of rebuilding to do.

If it's me, I have no idea. The whole problem is next year couldn't just be a great year, it could be a multiple banner year and we've never dealt with something like that so maybe it's worth up to even 5 years of little success.

I take my chances next year with Hoiberg, and after that come what may. There's no saying that if he leaves this year, the guy they bring in will have multiple years of success or ANY success at all. So you give me that choice and I take Hoiberg 100 times out of 100. If there's a chance at any sort of banner at ISU, sign me up for that in a heartbeat.