The MWC schools listed exist in the Mountain and Pacific time zones. Add in the central which the rest of the Big 12 exists in and you have 3 time zones without WV.
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The MWC schools listed exist in the Mountain and Pacific time zones. Add in the central which the rest of the Big 12 exists in and you have 3 time zones without WV.
For this. To hell with bowl games we never make, just go out there for every away game.
Just glanced quick and saw BYU, Wyoming, and Boise State........overlooked Freson and SDSU.
Not only would payouts be withheld but the exiting school would not be able to appear on TV until after the GOR expires.....in 2026.
While I think you are probably correct, forgive me if I take the "guarantee" of some anonymous Internet poster at a relatively low value.
Has that been explained somewhere? I've wondered what exactly would happen if a team were to exit, in defiance of the GOR. If a team leaves a conference, what revenue does it have to give to its old conference? Can the team's new conference media partner be forced to send revenue to a different conference without breaching its own contract?
Do you have a link for someone that has talked through all of the ramifications of the hypothetical scenario?
I realize this will never happen but I would love to see the SEC and Big 12 merge to form a connected 24 team conference. You would have four six-team pods. One would be the Big 8 teams minus Neb & Col. Another would have Arkansas reunite with the original Southwest Conf teams minus Houston, Rice & SMU. Then the SEC teams would remain East & West with some shuffling. TAM/Tex and Mizzou/KU rivalries would be renewed.
The bball contract would be massive since it would have a ton of inventory – maybe even enough to create 2 tiers of television rights. The conference could then also withdraw from the NCAA tournament which would cripple the NCAA. I don’t know the details of the television contract but there may be a clause allowing an out for the TV rights if 2 major conferences (including KU & KY) no longer participate. It would at least make the advertising demand much less than it is now. Either way the goal would be to defund the NCAA by depriving it of the $ earned from march madness. This would lead to a formation of another postseason tournament organized much the same way but run by the conferences themselves. Give all the march madness money to the conferences instead of the NCAA and suddenly basketball schools like Iowa State become a little more valuable.
The bball contract would be massive since it would have a ton of inventory – maybe even enough to create 2 tiers of television rights. The conference could then also withdraw from the NCAA tournament which would cripple the NCAA. I don’t know the details of the television contract but there may be a clause allowing an out for the TV rights if 2 major conferences (including KU & KY) no longer participate. It would at least make the advertising demand much less than it is now. Either way the goal would be to defund the NCAA by depriving it of the $ earned from march madness. This would lead to a formation of another postseason tournament organized much the same way but run by the conferences themselves. Give all the march madness money to the conferences instead of the NCAA and suddenly basketball schools like Iowa State become a little more valuable.
Interesting question. I think I've read a discussion on what would happen in a situation like this, but I can't remember where. So, if OU and KU leave for the B1G before the GOR expires, the Big 12 would still have the rights to their Tier 1 and Tier 2 rights, I think. The Big 12 has to offer the games to ESPN and FOX and say, if Ohio State is playing in Norman, that will probably be picked first and be a Tier 1 game because it's two national powers. So wouldn't the game between two B1G opponents be the Big 12 Game of the Week or whatever, since the Big 12 still owns the rights to OU.
But maybe the same week there is a game between Kansas and Illinois, which gets passed by ESPN and FOX and is now up for a Tier 3 game for the Big Ten Network. Under that case, since the GOR doesn't entail Tier 3 rights, the B1G and KU would get the revenue to that game I believe. Again, I think this is what happens, but I'm not positive. That's why I don't think OU or KU would want leave and break the GOR. I don't think the B1G would want to deal with the Big 12 being in charge of a matchup between two of their premier programs.
They don't pay to leave. The conference owns their rights. Hence no other conference would accept another member that has its rights still owned by the Big 12. Put another way, espn fox etc. have already bought the rights for Texas and Oklahoma through 2025. If Texas left they don't get the payout for TV but their rights are already sold. Texas is slated to make 55+m in the coming years on tear 1-3. The B1G or any conference could not match that so even if they could break a GoR this whole conversation is stupid.
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Yeah I don't understand why people think Texas would take such a major pay cut to leave? But hey if they do that's a lot more pie for Iowa State until the GOR expires.
There was one conference in position to have two teams in the playoff going into the last week of the season. That was the Big XII. The chips fell poorly for Baylor & TCU but if any of Oregon, Ohio State, Alabama, or Florida State had stumbled one of them would have been in. And if two of those teams had stumbled both of them would have been in. The chance of both of them getting in was about the same as the chance of neither of them.
I think when you read the article you want to keep in mind the concept, not focus on if its 64, 66, 72 or even 80(while I doubt they would go this high I would actually kind of like this, 8 leagues of 10 teams where everyone plays everyone round robin) but rather the concept of fitting people into smaller geographical conferences with closer regional rivalries. Of course ISU fans just have to be concerned about survival and would be all for it, anything to create stability. The positives would be the regional rivalries, the lower travel budgets and then whether college football's highest division negotiating tv as one brings a higher value or not, not to mention how awesome a 16 team playoff would be at the end of everything.
The question is would the B1G & SEC go for it. Those are the two leagues with the advantage over the other P5 leagues. I'm not sure they want to give their competitive advantage revenue wise away and make other leagues equal with them. The other issue that affects the B1G conference more than the SEC is recruiting. This is an overlooked reason why they added Rutgers for New Jersey and Maryland, those states produce more high quality football players than any other state they are in except for Ohio, and Pennsylvania is close but probably not as many most years. This is also why the B1G wants to continue expansion in either populated southern states that produce football recruits, whether that is Texas, Georgia and Virginia. I think this could be the hardest obstacle to overcome in getting them on board, maybe even more than the B1G foregoing their current revenue advantage.
