Are you happy with Coach Prohm so far?

Are you happy with Prohm so faR?

  • Yes

    Votes: 328 86.8%
  • No

    Votes: 6 1.6%
  • inbetween

    Votes: 44 11.6%

  • Total voters
    378

Londo

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The fact that we are arguing that being slightly outspoken about his faith that is our new head coaches' biggest fault so far is confirmation that this was best case scenario for Cyclone MBB after Hoiberg left :spinny:
 

randomfan44

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It's funny that people are making a big deal about it when a very high amount of good basketball players are religious. And of course they are being extremists and making it out to be a much bigger deal than it is. Just because you believe in and thank God doesn't mean you lecture everyone with bible versus and shun the non believers. Is he not allowed to talk about his children if the players don't have kids of their own?
A "very high amount of good basketball players"?!? I would love to know what you used to come to this conclusion. And there aren't laws or policies governing appropriate vs. inappropriate conversations about your children so not really a great comparison.
 

randomfan44

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The fact that we are arguing that being slightly outspoken about his faith that is our new head coaches' biggest fault so far is confirmation that this was best case scenario for Cyclone MBB after Hoiberg left :spinny:
Or it means that it's the offseason and there isn't anything relevant, like actual results of basketball games, to discuss.
 

Londo

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Or it means that it's the offseason and there isn't anything relevant, like actual results of basketball games, to discuss.

So you are really trying to argue that the staff he put together, player retention, and recruiting are irrelevant? That is why I said "so far" as there could be legitimate concerns with a coach that don't involve "actual results of basketball games" up to this point
 

randomfan44

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Interestingly, the 2015 NBA’s MVP and Golden State Warriors point guard Stephen Curry is a devout Christian as is Kevin Durant, Dwyane Wade, Dwight Howard, Nate Robinson, Alonzo Mourning, Jeremy Lin, A.C. Green and David Robinson just to name a few players who have the earned the respect of their fellow teammates both for their hard-charging style of play and faith in God.
Why is this interesting? And didn't Dwayne Wade impregnate another woman while he was "on a break" from his fiancee at the time, Gabrielle Union? http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/12/31/dwyane-wade-fathers-third-child-break-gabrielle-union/ Much respect...
 

CloneDontCare

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I've expressed my concerns about religion in the locker room in the cave. Which is where it belongs. Not here.

I'm not repeating it all again, but I'd like to say: those of us who bring it up have genuine concern, for good reasons. If you'd like to debate those reasons, bump a thread in the Religion and Politics forum or start yet another one (3rd or 4th?).

Doesn't matter who brings it up, hopefully everyone learns quickly to ignore comments or jokes about religion in this forum, else it will be insufferable.
 

randomfan44

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So you are really trying to argue that the staff he put together, player retention, and recruiting are irrelevant? That is why I said "so far" as there could be legitimate concerns with a coach that don't involve "actual results of basketball games" up to this point
Meh, no one will know whether the coaches he hired are good hires for another 2-3 years. And what did he have to do to retain players besides be the coach of a team expected to be preseason Top 10? I don't see anyone on the roster that's going to transfer no matter who was hired. Several of the players have already used their redshirt season transferring TO Iowa State so they'd lose a year of eligibility if they left. So yeah, there really isn't anything to talk about in those regards. That's why the conversation meanders to the whole "group prayer before games" topic. It's really the only "rate it now" thing to debate.
 

randomfan44

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It appears some of those commenting about the coach’s faith, would have also had an issue with one of the greatest NCAA basketball coaches in history! John Wooden, the six time “NCAA College Basketball Coach of the Yearâ€￾ was as well known for his principled faith-based coaching style as he was for his unprecedented winning record, leadership and ability!
He's also known as being the benefactor of the dirtiest program in ncaa history. So there's that...
 

Gunnerclone

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So you are really trying to argue that the staff he put together, player retention, and recruiting are irrelevant? That is why I said "so far" as there could be legitimate concerns with a coach that don't involve "actual results of basketball games" up to this point

90% of CBB right there in those three things. The games are really just a reflection of what happens in these 3 areas.
 

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Someone needs to make the voting results public so we can find out who is the one person who voted No.




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RustShack

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A "very high amount of good basketball players"?!? I would love to know what you used to come to this conclusion. And there aren't laws or policies governing appropriate vs. inappropriate conversations about your children so not really a great comparison.

Get on Twitter. A very high amount of athletes tweet about God often. Hell maybe a little good Karma from bringing God into the locker room is just what Iowa State needs.
 

BigBake

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I gotta second the player retention thing. It's not a knock on Prohm but I can't give credit for player retention. As just posted we are a pre season top 10 team. Highly unlikely anyone bolted. We did lose some recruits but that's goes back on FH and no fault of Prohm.

I will say "happy" because I think when he came in was bad timing, transfer period was kinda wrapped up (mostly) and the coaching carasouel(sp?) had pretty much stopped spinning. Seeing him in on some of the kids he is (and the Carter commit) were definitely some bright spots that were need.

I understand the "so far" so my happy is based solely on that condition. We'll truly know after 2016/17. I don't expect top 10 preseason but he should be able to recruit enough to reload and get us at least dancing. A low seed is fine as long as we're "in".
 

heitclone

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A "very high amount of good basketball players"?!? I would love to know what you used to come to this conclusion. And there aren't laws or policies governing appropriate vs. inappropriate conversations about your children so not really a great comparison.

I'd guess its impossible to actually know the exact number but I'd guess the majority of kids playing cbb went to a private religious high school. That doesn't make them bible thumpers but I think it shows that its not nearly as big a deal as most like to make it. At the very least, it shows that big time basketball prospects will take a little religion if it gets them to their ultimate goal or that its doesn't impact their education and playing career.

Villanova, Syracuse, Marquette, Georgetown, Xavier, Gonzaga, Bulter, Notre Dame, Baylor, and many more religious institutions prove year in year out that you can separate sports/school from religion and be successful on the court. Can anyone name one time that religion had any negative impact whatsoever on a college basketball program?
 

CyRp2013

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I'd guess its impossible to actually know the exact number but I'd guess the majority of kids playing cbb went to a private religious high school. That doesn't make them bible thumpers but I think it shows that its not nearly as big a deal as most like to make it. At the very least, it shows that big time basketball prospects will take a little religion if it gets them to their ultimate goal or that its doesn't impact their education and playing career.

Villanova, Syracuse, Marquette, Georgetown, Xavier, Gonzaga, Bulter, Notre Dame, Baylor, and many more religious institutions prove year in year out that you can separate sports/school from religion and be successful on the court. Can anyone name one time that religion had any negative impact whatsoever on a college basketball program?


Extremely rare, but I guess BYU when they had Jimmer and their second best player got kicked off the team for relations with his girlfriend.
 

Sigmapolis

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Seems he's built a strong relationship with two individuals:

TJ Otz
Georges Niang

All other blessings are going to flow from those two.

So, yeah, he's done well so far given the limited sample size and timing of his impact.