If Hoiberg's friends think that, they are stupid. Fred made one Sweet Sixteen and had no deep tourney runs and for that he was compensated at a salary level that is probably top 25 nationally. Coaches like Roy Williams make less I believe. Yes Fred was a great up and comer in the coaching industry, but he was given a raise nearly every year and went from, what, 900K to over 2 million in 5 years and 900k was for a rookie coach with zero track record which seems extremely generous to start. His current contract would have keep escalating each year and while it would not have made him a top 10 salary, it seems more than fair given he has zero regular season conference titles and only one second weekend experience in the Dance.
REFUTED: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
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A thread this long should really contain conference realignment speculation....
Steve Prohm, would you like to weigh in or can we turn the page and set our sights on a successful 2015-2016 campaign?
Steve Prohm, would you like to weigh in or can we turn the page and set our sights on a successful 2015-2016 campaign?
Isn't he good friends with Corn? Wouldn't surprise me if he is one of the sources. Pollard specifically mentioned hearing those who were no longer on the staff and not asked to return, or something like that.
Can you imagine the heat Pollard will get if the basketball team has a rough start and the football team is sitting there with 2 wins?
Travis Hines credibility probably took a huge hit by publishing this story more than anything he supposedly "uncovered" writing this hurting ISU. First off no names to your sources and now the 2 guys that the story are about in Pollard and Hoiberg who declined to particpate in the story when Hines reached out to them have both gone on record with another member of the local media to say the story is inaccurate. Hard to claim what you wrote to be facts when the people who gave you the information won't put their names behind it and the people directly involved now have spoke about it. Really sad to see Travis publish this garbage and it's probably going to cost him dearly trying to get access to write some good future pieces now that he's burned a few bridges and hurt his reputation with this story that really did no one any good in the end.
Travis wrote a story that he believed offered insight into the MBB program. Maybe some of his sources had an axe to grind, but I don't understand the attitude that Travis has some responsibility to only publish positive reports on ISU athletics. As if denial of the truth and censorship of the press is some positive thing for a program.
There are stories that don't need to be published and if you feel this is one of them fine, but don't expect the press to publish only positive stories to aid recruiting. That isn't the purpose of the press. Maybe it is overblown, but maybe it keeps the Athletic Department honest a bit in dealing with the Assistant Coaches and Team. If there is a kernel of truth in it, is it truly better it stay under wraps?
I can see the AD or University having a stake in censoring Travis, but I don't understand fans of the program doing it. Then again, I am not in favor of censorship in any manner.
There are stories that don't need to be published and if you feel this is one of them fine, but don't expect the press to publish only positive stories to aid recruiting. That isn't the purpose of the press. Maybe it is overblown, but maybe it keeps the Athletic Department honest a bit in dealing with the Assistant Coaches and Team. If there is a kernel of truth in it, is it truly better it stay under wraps?
I can see the AD or University having a stake in censoring Travis, but I don't understand fans of the program doing it. Then again, I am not in favor of censorship in any manner.
Was Hines asked on the radio directly if he spoke with Fred 3 weeks ago and Fred asked him not to publish? If Hines backs up that he spoke to Fred - why put in the story Fred couldn't be reached for comment?
For like the millionth time... unnamed sources are zero percent the problem with this article. Everyone uses unnamed sources. They are essential for any reporter (and in many other jobs) to do their work. Even if the allegations were 100% and totally true, nobody would talk if they had to put their name to it. Hines didn't properly vet the complaints his unnamed sources brought up. That was the problem. Nobody names sources and it is weird that people would want names named.
I'd say it's pretty easy to figure out who the sources are and it's not like they're outsiders that wouldn't know what is going on. I'd say Matt A, Mann, DeAndre, Mel, Charlie Henry, Hogue, etc. etc.
Why? The only thing that looks bad is the Hawaii story and that's proven to be a non-story.
It was pretty clear from Hines that he did talk to Hoiberg but it was off the record. He chose his words carefully and would only say he did not receive any comments on the story from Fred.
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My issue with this story is if he indeed reached out to Fred and Fred told him he shouldn't publish it that should have been a red flag right there that if he proceeded to publish it there was a good chance Fred would comment about the story like he did with Keith Murphy. And Pollard claiming that Fred called and told him that Travis contacted him to give him a heads up on this too shows that Travis really screwed the pooch on this one. Look I realize not every article is going to be positive and I do not expect it but if you are going to take on ISU's Golden Boy and an AD that fans respect you better damn well have better sources than anonymous ones because I sure as hell am going to believe what Fred and Pollard said over someone who is too coward to put their name on it.
If Travis had put some names behind the information he was trying to present as factual it would be a lot easier to believe but when you start your story off about a hotel situation in Hawaii and the AD says that he's never dealt with travel accommodations and that was Micah Byers area right there the story loses all credibility. Then Fred says they had 5 hours to burn before their flight which "is no big deal" and talks about his twins playing in the pool with the players you now have 2 very solid statements right there that the story was blown out of proportion. Pollard explained how they had a trade off for paying for family to come to Hawaii in exchange for not paying for them for the 1st round NCAA tourney which if any of you have ever traveled to Hawaii knows not only is it something you may only get to do once in your lifetime but it is a rather expensive trip too so the explanation behind that sounded pretty reasonable to me considering they typically would not pay for family to travel to an early season tournament.
I'm just really disappointed in Travis Hines on this one. Seems like he got taken for a fool by some people who are still bitter over something. The fallout on this story just proves what a mistake it was to publish it. I don't expect him to always be all positive about ISU but this story does no good for anything involved and in hindsight really hurt's Travis's credibility I think. This is a piece I'd expect a clown like Tom Witosky who used to write for The Rag to publish as he was the king of trying to dig up any dirt he could find regardless how solid of info he really had
And the funny part about how Pollard supposedly wants to move away from transfers is hilarious too because what has Prohm been doing since he got here? That's right, he's been targeting and signing some transfers too! It's not like the transfers Fred brought in caused us problems or hurt our program, in fact it probably helped make our program a lot more attractive
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