It was 4 hours. Get the **** over it. There shouldn't have been anything done differently.
REFUTED: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
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It was 4 hours. Get the **** over it. There shouldn't have been anything done differently.
Fred directly responded to this and I might be paraphrasing, "We had to kill 5 hours. Big ******* Deal"
And we beat the **** out of Kansas' pampered players the last two years, what's your point?
I love the part where Hoiberg details exactly what his twins were doing at the time and then says he doesn't remember what happened: “My twins were going out and swimming in the pools with the players. It was a really fun thing to watch them interact with our players. It’s not a big deal. It was not a big deal to me, and I honestly don’t even remember that happening.†Too funny.
I'm saying we are picking through pepper to find some fly poop so we can throw it at Jamie Pollard.
No organization is perfect and no person does everything perfectly. Personally I am glad Jamie Pollard hired Fred Hoiberg and between the two of them, amazing things were accomplished in their five years together. Some disappointments, but also some incredible memories. Nothing JP could have done or done differently would have made Fred Hoiberg our coach for this upcoming season. From the sound of it, Fred believes they had everything they needed to win and had no issues with how the program was run from the AD side. Maybe he is being kind or maybe that is true, you can believe that or not.
What matters is that going forward, our AD is still hopefully run with the two revenue sports getting "all they need" to be successful. The story says they did not, but Fred says (in so many words) that they did. Your mileage may vary.
No organization is perfect and no person does everything perfectly. Personally I am glad Jamie Pollard hired Fred Hoiberg and between the two of them, amazing things were accomplished in their five years together. Some disappointments, but also some incredible memories. Nothing JP could have done or done differently would have made Fred Hoiberg our coach for this upcoming season. From the sound of it, Fred believes they had everything they needed to win and had no issues with how the program was run from the AD side. Maybe he is being kind or maybe that is true, you can believe that or not.
What matters is that going forward, our AD is still hopefully run with the two revenue sports getting "all they need" to be successful. The story says they did not, but Fred says (in so many words) that they did. Your mileage may vary.
People have a choice, believe Hines and un-named sources or believe the coach and AD who are what the story is about. I believe FH & JP as they spoke to the issue on the radio shows talking about this. Those who dislike (I did not say hate) our AD will continue to blame him for everything. If you believe Hines then you have to believe FH & JP are not telling us the truth.
Not really, you said he said that item wasn't a big deal when in fact he said he wasn't familiar with the item cited and said his broader TP. So you were incorrect which was my only point, when people don't want to answer a specific question they go back to the talking points which Fred did.
I don't think the issue had anything to do with him leaving and agree the premise of the story and many components were false. But anyone would be erked by publically misrepresenting your salary and it has been reported by many in the know to be true. Plus JP basically lied about never doing it as has been demonstrated over and over. Hell we all talked about it when Jamie did it. But believe that there is zero truth to anything in that story if you want. It just isn't accurate or plausible.
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What he actually said was that he didn't even remember it happening until he read the story and the account of it. Because the story held it up as a shiny example of a nickel and dime operation. However Fred didn't hold some grudge against the AD about it, but reading this anonymous account couldn't believe how stupid it was. Then said yeah, finding something to do in Hawaii for 5 hours. THAT sucked, right?
No, I just found it amusing to give specific details about exactly what was happening at the time, only to end with saying he didn't remember what happened. I just enjoy all the polished public statements people make; they entertain me.
He said he didn't remember it until it got brought up and then he remembered them swimming and it not being an issue. You're trying too hard
Nobody is saying it isn't true. In fact I think we can say with 100% confidence that the team did in fact check out of the hotel at noon and piled all their luggage into a ballroom in the hotel. We can also be extremely confident that some portion of the team was tired/hungover and just slept there rather than doing anything else. The reason it is getting dismissed isn't because it isn't true. It is getting dismissed because it wasn't a big deal, at all, and wasn't evidence of the team being "nickel and dimed". And most importantly it certainly wasn't worth leading the story with, sensationally acting like the team had to spend the night in the ballroom right after winning the tournament because the AD was to cheap to get rooms for them overnight.
Coaches paying for their family to fly to NCAAs is 100% true as well. Hines just left out all context to make the story seem bad when in fact they only had to pay because they chose to bring their family to Hawaii instead.
Jesus, folks, that whole post of mine was basically an excuse to quote Major League, substituting penny-pinching Pollard for ex-showgirl Indians owner Rachel Phelps. It was a joke. Apparently a bad one. Oh well.
Well, the radio hosts on KXNO released the names of the sources that refuted the report. Their names were Jamie Pollard and Fred Hoiberg. Hard to argue with that.
I don't remember a lot of things that aren't a big deal until someone or something jogs my memory.
Troll.
As if this whole thing wasn't bad enough, Tuco again. He's quoted more in here than Deep Throat.
Wonder how many of Hines sources are posting in this thread?
Wonder how many of Hines sources are posting in this thread?
Let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little ****ed up maybe, but they're funny how, I mean funny like they're a clown, they amuse you? They make you laugh, they're here to ****in' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How are they funny?
You said they're funny. How the **** are they funny, what the **** is so funny about them? Tell me, tell me what's funny!
