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Cyclonepride

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There's no way to tell from the still photo that the ball hit the ground (it looked like it was hovering in that one) and the ball can hit the ground if you are in control of it prior to hitting (he was). Yes, the ball came loose at some point during his roll, but there was absolutely no definitive evidence that the ground caused this. 9 out of 10 times, the call on the field would stand.
 

Stormin

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I would like to see all the calls from last night's game that Okie State had that were under review that went against them. There was one sideline catch that kind of looked like it was out of bounds and was not even reviewed. The late flag on the Illegal Procedure penalty was just weird. The push off by their receiver not called. And then Iowa State gets called not much later for offensive pass interference for pushing off.

Iowa State had opportunities to win this game. But the officiating was hardly on a level playing field. It gets quite old. I am trying to think of all the BS Ofiicial calls that have actually gone in Iowa State's favor rather than against us. If it is random, then there should be approximately the same number going each way. And there are not.
 

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I was just stunned to see the announcers bring that catch back up long after just to cover the refs *** because they knew how bad an over turn call that was. I have never seen them play damage control on a call long after the play like that.
Made me put the foil hat on and pay closer attention. It was then where I noticed the constant poor spots the rest of the game. Just such a bummer
 

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Incorrect, the ball can move the ground just can't help the WR make the catch.

Wrong. If the ball hits the ground while making a catch, the ball must not shift positions like it did. I know you all want to blame it on the refs, but it was the correct call.
 

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There's no way to tell from the still photo that the ball hit the ground (it looked like it was hovering in that one) and the ball can hit the ground if you are in control of it prior to hitting (he was). Yes, the ball came loose at some point during his roll, but there was absolutely no definitive evidence that the ground caused this. 9 out of 10 times, the call on the field would stand.


If the ball hits the ground and then it moves and you have to re-control it, it's not a catch. You can easily tell both of those things happen.
 

State43

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Wrong. If the ball hits the ground while making a catch, the ball must not shift positions like it did. I know you all want to blame it on the refs, but it was the correct call.

Does that call get overturned if OSU was on offense or does it stand. Statistics would probably show the call would stand. OSU has been on the receiving end of countless questionable calls all season where they benefitted greatly.
 

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I was at the game last night. Admittedly, I was furious with the officiating.

Now, I have not seen the tv replays of the controversial calls. With a night's sleep here's my opinion. I think all games have "bad" calls. The most simple and logical explaination is Iowa State over a sustained period of time just isn't at a point where they can either take advantage of a "bad" call in their favor or overcome one against them.

Remember the 2011 Ok State game and the contiversial field goal? We got a close call in our favor and ISU took advantage of it.

This is exactly right.

Bad calls happen to all teams and good teams overcome/ take advantage of them. And yes, better teams, bigger name teams, the best players, top coaches etc. get the calls. This is the way it has been in sports forever. So yes ISU has more bad calls go against it, but so does Purdue, Indiana, Vandy, etc. maybe it's worse here than other places, but start winning with some consistency and the calls will come. I hate that about officiating, but that's the way it has been and always will be in all sports.
 

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Does that call get overturned if OSU was on offense or does it stand. Statistics would probably show the call would stand. OSU has been on the receiving end of countless questionable calls all season where they benefitted greatly.


Statistics? So that same play has happened to them before? Multiple times?

Look, I don't care about previous calls or calls against us or for them before this play. Well, I do, because there have been some bad ones against us...but I digress.

It it was the right call on this particular play. I'm not sure how you can look at it and think otherwise.
 

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It's amazing that so many people on here still come in with the attitude of "Bad calls happen to everyone you just have to overcome them."

Do bad calls happen to everyone in every game. Yup.

But if you can't see the obvious missed calls, wrong calls, wrong spots and other complete BS that officials in the big 12 do on a regular basis that favor certain teams you are just being ignorant. It isn't just a scandal against ISU. It's a scandal against any team that isn't who they want to win at any given time.
 

Miniclone11

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It's amazing that so many people on here still come in with the attitude of "Bad calls happen to everyone you just have to overcome them."

Do bad calls happen to everyone in every game. Yup.

But if you can't see the obvious missed calls, wrong calls, wrong spots and other complete BS that officials in the big 12 do on a regular basis that favor certain teams you are just being ignorant. It isn't just a scandal against ISU. It's a scandal against any team that isn't who they want to win at any given time.

While I don't think this was one of the missed calls, I do sort of agree with this. Which is why I don't totally understand rooting for the B12 to get into a playoff. We know it won't be us, so why are we rooting for these other schools and the B12 as a whole? They don't do us any favors, certainly.
 

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It's amazing that so many people on here still come in with the attitude of "Bad calls happen to everyone you just have to overcome them."

Do bad calls happen to everyone in every game. Yup.

But if you can't see the obvious missed calls, wrong calls, wrong spots and other complete BS that officials in the big 12 do on a regular basis that favor certain teams you are just being ignorant. It isn't just a scandal against ISU. It's a scandal against any team that isn't who they want to win at any given time.

Trying to think of all the basketball games that Kansas has been screwed by bad calls. It doesn't happen.

Big 12 Refs have a history of making horrendous calls that go against Iowa State. If it is not bias, then these calls should even out. And they do not.
 

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Adversity hits in every walk of life. How does one handle it when it does is what separates winners from losers. Our football team, along with a large population of our fan base, handles it very poorly. We had every opportunity to win the game. We couldn't get it done. I see posts and tweets saying they won't little old Iowa state win. ********. I guarantee we could have marched down the field on either of the last 2 drives and punched it in for a game winner.

Control what you can control-i.e. Not the officiating. I really hope our staff and players aren't crying like most of the fans cause if they are-we won't ever have a winning record. Winners overcome problems. Losers succumb to them.
 

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Adversity hits in every walk of life. How does one handle it when it does is what separates winners from losers. Our football team, along with a large population of our fan base, handles it very poorly. We had every opportunity to win the game. We couldn't get it done. I see posts and tweets saying they won't little old Iowa state win. ********. I guarantee we could have marched down the field on either of the last 2 drives and punched it in for a game winner.

Control what you can control-i.e. Not the officiating. I really hope our staff and players aren't crying like most of the fans cause if they are-we won't ever have a winning record. Winners overcome problems. Losers succumb to them.

When you have a coach that has an absolute ****attack with every call don't expect the players to be even keeled and under control.
 

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With all of these favorable calls going to playoff teams, I wonder how long until the committee takes notice. The Big10 has teams like MSU that get knocked out of consideration by questionable calls while the Big12 has time and time again teams kept in consideration because of them.

Not saying all of them are wrong, its just that the 50/50 calls always go a certain way.
 

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Adversity hits in every walk of life. How does one handle it when it does is what separates winners from losers. Our football team, along with a large population of our fan base, handles it very poorly. We had every opportunity to win the game. We couldn't get it done. I see posts and tweets saying they won't little old Iowa state win. ********. I guarantee we could have marched down the field on either of the last 2 drives and punched it in for a game winner.

Control what you can control-i.e. Not the officiating. I really hope our staff and players aren't crying like most of the fans cause if they are-we won't ever have a winning record. Winners overcome problems. Losers succumb to them.

Let me play a game against you several times. Each game I will get several small advantages and you will get several small advantages. Occasionally I will flat out cheat just to make sure I keep my advantage. When you lose you can just tell yourself how you should have done better to beat me because I was obviously the better player since I won. Sound fair?

No one is saying that Iowa State has no chance to win because of the calls against them. They just become an extra burden to overcome that they shouldn't have to face. There comes a point in time where you have to put your foot down and demand a fair playing field.

When Iowa State has a chance to beat a great team but they have to fight an additional team on the field playing against them (the officials) it takes some enjoyment out of the game. I'm sick of watching it and I'm sick of people accepting it.
 

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