Arrest reported in ISU hit and run death

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I dont really agree. Out of all the people speculating on here, I dont think anyone mentioned the possibility of it being a bus.

Lots were thinking larger vehicle but probably discounted a bus due to the thought that it would have passengers. However, the buses really don't start rolling that early and it is a bit inconvenient for students during finals week that they don't. If you have a 7:30 final and want to get there early for some reason, they don't give you much time to do that.
 

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I dont really agree. Out of all the people speculating on here, I dont think anyone mentioned the possibility of it being a bus.
Yeah I went back and read the original thread from a month ago and no one mentioned CyRide at all. But of course now everyone says that CyRide was a main suspect
 

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It's been 1 month since it happened, not really that much time. seems like the authorities did what they were supposed to here and found the person responsible. Too many "experts" on here, lol.


with half of the population of Ames (and certainly the more relevant half) gone for several of those weeks.
 

cyclone83

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Or at least you'd pull cyride footage of buses in the area at the time to see if there was anything that could provide info given they were trying to find witnesses.

You would think the first thing the lead investigator would do is check every business within two blocks to see if they had any security video from that time frame. Shouldn't someone have said Cy Ride buses have video, maybe we should look at the video from every bus that was within a mile of here and watch the video from around 7:04 to see if we get any clues? You think this would have been done by noon the day it happened.
 

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I dont really agree. Out of all the people speculating on here, I dont think anyone mentioned the possibility of it being a bus.

right, even if they didn't think it was a bus that hit her, they are aware that there are cameras on them so wouldn't they want to see if one of those cameras caught the accident or the surrounding area immediately after?

That's assuming the police are aware that the buses have cameras though.
 

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with half of the population of Ames (and certainly the more relevant half) gone for several of those weeks.

And they got something from/about Cyride 2 weeks ago. Which given the holidays in the middle, is fairly good response time.

It's not like on TV where they solve the case in 45 minutes :twitcy:
 

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You would think the first thing the lead investigator would do is check every business within two blocks to see if they had any security video from that time frame. Shouldn't someone have said Cy Ride buses have video, maybe we should look at the video from every bus that was within a mile of here and watch the video from around 7:04 to see if we get any clues? You think this would have been done by noon the day it happened.


Today, all I want to do is focus on the fact that they have made an arrest. Now is not the time to criticize them for not doing it sooner, particularly when it seems that no one on this over-analytical website even suggested it. No one.

Let's keep in mind that the investigation was taking place during a school break and holidays when staffing is probably low.

Seems like they did some good police work to make this arrest.
 

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Today, all I want to do is focus on the fact that they have made an arrest. Now is not the time to criticize them for not doing it sooner, particularly when it seems that no one on this over-analytical website even suggested it. No one.

Let's keep in mind that the investigation was taking place during a school break and holidays when staffing is probably low.

Seems like they did some good police work to make this arrest.

I don't want to disagree with this point at all as people always are awfully hard on the police force with these types of things. However police work did not do it here. CyRide called them, and laid it all out for them. They then knew the driver, just had to look at CyRide's report and check his phone text.

What ever route gets it resolved though is the best one.
 

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Today, all I want to do is focus on the fact that they have made an arrest. Now is not the time to criticize them for not doing it sooner, particularly when it seems that no one on this over-analytical website even suggested it. No one.

Let's keep in mind that the investigation was taking place during a school break and holidays when staffing is probably low.

Seems like they did some good police work to make this arrest.

The weird thing is they never actually asked the cyride people, the cyride people contacted them. Also not sure if it's common procedure for them to go over the tapes two weeks prior or why they wouldn't look the following day.

The work they did after getting the video seems to be excellent police work.
 

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I've never driven a bus, so maybe you wouldn't, but I've hit a squirrel with a truck and noticed.
If he stopped to check the front next stop, he knew something. He may have been looking to see if the bus had any damage before the next shift. Sounds bad for him since I also notice when I hit squirrels and birds.
 

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Seems like they have suspected it was the cyride driver for a couple of weeks now, these things need to be handled carefully/thoroughly. A month doesn't seem egregious to me.
 

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The gold route is the only one that turns onto Ash, right? And that's a left turn.
That is correct. When you are heading west bound on Lincoln, you turn left on Ash Ave. This is the only route that turns into Greek land.

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cyclone87

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I don't want to disagree with this point at all as people always are awfully hard on the police force with these types of things. However police work did not do it here. CyRide called them, and laid it all out for them. They then knew the driver, just had to look at CyRide's report and check his phone text.

What ever route gets it resolved though is the best one.

Police had asked CyRide to review video from their buses and a supervisor flagged Clague's video for review. Police said they believe audio captured showed the collision and that Clague knew he hit someone.

http://www.kcci.com/news/arrest-just-reported-in-isu-students-fatal-hitandrun-crash/37530046
 

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Best possible light is he knew he hit something but not sure what and didn't think it was a person and then looked at next stop to see. Then panicked when the news broke. In which case he should have come forward. Either way had he owned up to it, it would be a traffic ticket. Now it is a felony.
Then he was immoral and stupid since he did not come forward.
 

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How long it takes to make an arrest is not an issue at all. I don't know how good the police are at their jobs, but in most police work, it's more important to be diligent and correct, than fast and inaccurate.

The only instance where time is an issue, is if you're dealing with a serial criminal.
 

cyclone83

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And they got something from/about Cyride 2 weeks ago. Which given the holidays in the middle, is fairly good response time.

It's not like on TV where they solve the case in 45 minutes :twitcy:

Something just seems odd. You would think someone at Cy Ride would have said, you know, we have video cameras on all of our buses, maybe we should look at the video of the bus that was making a left turn at this intersection at about the time the accident happened to see if we see anything that could help the police. Oh well, the holidays are coming up, maybe I will get to it the first week of January.

Meanwhile the police are interviewing every body shop in central Iowa for weeks hoping to find the damaged vehicle. If the bus video is the key piece of evidence, you would think it would have been discovered before January in spite of the holidays. I don't see why the students being out of town for two weeks has any impact.
 
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WastedTalent

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This is a fluid case, that has many variables. Hopefully the police have all their facts straight, and have built a solid case before the arrest.

If they acted too quickly and were sloppy, then a good defense lawyer is able to use bad police work in his case, rather than the facts.