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CySoup

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Ok move Jok down below Morris and Mckay where he belongs. Jok is a lot better than I expected but he's not better than those two.

I think Jok has obviously moved past most the other players we are talking about except Niang, Morris, McKay, and Uthoff. He has been very impressive during conference play. He is avg. 17.7 PPG, 4.2 RPG, 1.8 APG, and 2 steals per game in conference play, and is shooting 47% FG% and 46% 3pt%
 

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No doubt, but we didn't watch Niang beat Uthoff 1 on 1 over 40 minutes. We watched ISU beat Iowa over 40 minutes, while Uthoff outplayed everyone else on the floor.

And it still wasn't enough. Isn't that kind of alarming as a Hawkeye fan that your best player can have the best game he's ever had and still couldn't beat this "disappointing" Iowa State team?
 

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And it still wasn't enough. Isn't that kind of alarming as a Hawkeye fan that your best player can have the best game he's ever had and still couldn't beat this "disappointing" Iowa State team?

No, because basketball is a game where 10 players are on the court at a time. 1 player doesn't decide the game.

Do you think Kansas beat Oklahoma because Buddy Hield didn't do enough to win with his 46 points?
 

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No, because basketball is a game where 10 players are on the court at a time. 1 player doesn't decide the game.

Do you think Kansas beat Oklahoma because Buddy Hield didn't do enough to win with his 46 points?

One of your fellow Hawkeyes is arguing the exact opposite in this thread.
 

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Chill out man, I've watched plenty of Iowa State games. I was just basing off what ive seen from Jok the last month or so where hes been lighting it up from 3. You're right, Morris is the better all around player. Sorry to anybody I offended.
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No one is saying Iowa is much better than Iowa State. You are creating arguments that don't exist.

Also, Iowa would be favored over Iowa State on a neutral court. It seems like Vegas, AP voters, and computer rankings all agree that Iowa is a marginally better team than Iowa State. ISU winning by one point on their own home court does little to change that fact.

Those sources you cited have an OPINION that Iowa is marginally better. You just eroded some credibility by saying in the next sentence that those opinions were "fact".

The fact is, Iowa State won the game......your Hawkeyes can be all the "better" they want, it still won't change that fact.
 

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No, because basketball is a game where 10 players are on the court at a time. 1 player doesn't decide the game.

Do you think Kansas beat Oklahoma because Buddy Hield didn't do enough to win with his 46 points?

Agree with most of what you said here, but there are exceptions with the bolded part.

One exception obviously is when that one player was absent for a game against a team that doesnt usually beat his team but then that team that doesnt usually beat his team beats his team. Then two weeks later he makes his first start after missing two weeks with knee surgery against that same team that doesnt usually beat his team, and that team beat his team again. In this 'scenario' clearly the player not being there for the first game and being a different player since his return did decide a game. Twice. Just thought I'd clarify. Carry on.
 
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So in 20 minutes he was able to drop twice as many points at Niang was over 40 minutes on his own court? How terrible of him.

Also, I think our players forgetting how to inbound a basketball at the end of the game might be more impactful than Uthoff not hitting 1 shot.

But you are claiming he outplayed everyone else on the floor for the game , Based on what? That he had a great half, but then disappeared almost completely when the defense was changed up on him? He didn't outplay anyone in the 2nd half when it really counted, and it is not the first time he has disappeared, and honest hawk fans admit to this. Wasn't Uthoff one of those players on the floor who forgot how to inbound? If so, who was he outplaying on that play?

He outplayed everyone else for one half, and one half only. Niang (and others) outplayed him in the 2nd half when it mattered most and the game was on the line.
 

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But you are claiming he outplayed everyone else on the floor for the game , Based on what? That he had a great half, but then disappeared almost completely when the defense was changed up on him? He didn't outplay anyone in the 2nd half when it really counted, and it is not the first time he has disappeared, and honest hawk fans admit to this.

He outplayed everyone else for one half, and one half only. Niang (and others) outplayed him in the 2nd half when it mattered most and the game was on the line.

This is where we seem to disagree. Both halves count the same. Did you know Iowa won the 2nd half of the Rose Bowl? But the 1st half we lost by 30, so we lost the game.

Uthoff's 1st half performance alone was better than any other Iowa or Iowa State player's performance over the whole course of the game, at least statistically speaking.
 

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This is where we seem to disagree. Both halves count the same. Did you know Iowa won the 2nd half of the Rose Bowl? But the 1st half we lost by 30, so we lost the game.

Uthoff's 1st half performance alone was better than any other Iowa or Iowa State player's performance over the whole course of the game, at least statistically speaking.

#SuperBowl
 

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This is where we seem to disagree. Both halves count the same. Did you know Iowa won the 2nd half of the Rose Bowl? But the 1st half we lost by 30, so we lost the game.

Uthoff's 1st half performance alone was better than any other Iowa or Iowa State player's performance over the whole course of the game, at least statistically speaking.
You are a certain kind of special, aren't you? Now I am starting to feel bad for you.
 

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This is where we seem to disagree. Both halves count the same. Did you know Iowa won the 2nd half of the Rose Bowl? But the 1st half we lost by 30, so we lost the game.


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Uthoff's 1st half performance alone was better than any other Iowa or Iowa State player's performance over the whole course of the game, at least statistically speaking.
 
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