*** #17 IOWA STATE vs #14 West Virginia Game(day) Thread ***

ISUTex

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Bench isn't a Prohm problem, Hoiberg is the one that screwed that up.


He could work with, coach up, and play them? They have the ability. He needs to give them a chance. The matador defensive strategy half of the game isn't exactly working against good teams on the road. Did Paige score 40 tonight? Paige?
 

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Why don't we blame the coach was actually on the floor for once? Prohm has had plenty of time to try and figure something out on defense and has failed miserably

yeah, these guys haven't played defense since Fred took over. Prohm had no time to recruit because hoiberg turned away recruits and then jumped ship when it was to late. He is failing at the Bulls. Another of his teams that doesn't play D.
 

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I think it's the other way around. ISU is playing passively because they are getting called for everything when they try and play hard defense. Even when they play soft defense they get called for every little touch. They aren't as physical down low because they can't afford to risk the fouls getting called against them. We force a lot of missed shots, but we either lost the rebounds while playing zone, get shoved out by more aggressive players, or get a goul called against us.

I agree with some of this. There's been games where the refs weren't bad though and the same thing as tonight happened. I'm not expecting ISU to hold teams in the 70's. Thought the zone was a stupid choice due to WVU being a great rebounding team. They have capable shooters on their team, guess that's why I'm not the coach, just didn't get the defensive strategy tonight.
 

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Our "bench" is Vaughn who is sitting in the D league or the other cat who went to KU when he knew Fred was bolting on us. Pretty long list of 4 or 5 guys who could be here but are not.
 

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Based on the fact that our players legs are about to fall off.

so you know we have other talented players because the ones who play are tired?

Umm ok.

Carter clearly isnt ready. Ashton is a good walkon but him and cooke would have gotten destroyed. Not bashing either of them.
 

CyArob

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**** I wish Fred was able to recruit someone here during his last 2 years.
 

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West Virginia dared the refs to call fouls and they did, on us. Absolutely dictated how that game went down. WV falls in the tourney because they will never get away with a mugging like that. practically no fouls called in the first half and then in the bonus and double bonus before us. Ridiculous.
 

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This team returned more than any team Fred ever had. And has already matched the most losses fred had not counting the first year. And we still have to play at kansas.
 

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He could work with, coach up, and play them? They have the ability. He needs to give them a chance. The matador defensive strategy half of the game isn't exactly working against good teams on the road. Did Paige score 40 tonight? Paige?

What exactly do you think goes on during the days they aren't on TV? I have a feeling Prohm notices it when our subs get absolutely destroyed by our starters every day in practice.
 

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This team returned more than any team Fred ever had. And has already matched the most losses fred had not counting the first year. And we still have to play at kansas.

not if you count the transfers Fred brought in each year...each year except for the last.
 

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Sleep it off, guys.


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ISUTex

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so you know we have other talented players because the ones who play are tired?

Umm ok.

Carter clearly isnt ready. Ashton is a good walkon but him and cooke would have gotten destroyed. Not bashing either of them.


They wouldn't get destroyed. Please. Besides, how is it any worse than our drained starters getting destroyed on those all too familiar 12-2.....15-4 runs every team goes on every single freaking game?