Big 12 realignment is back...looks like real changes coming soon.

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If you want Isu to win more fball games then you want expansion and u want expansion with teams like uconn and cinnci...uconn brings the NYC tv market...pretty easy to see why them...as for a conf network it's called $$$. Look at the big ten..those teams will make at least $15 mil more a year next go around..at least. Not to mention other Iowa st sports will be on a conf network and that's appealing to those other sports..men's and women's.

So you would rather the conf add oh say Florida st and Notre dame? No thanks. Isu woild never win again...again..if you are an Isu fan I cannot fathom how any Isu fan wouldn't be in favor of expansion..not to mention it solidifies our conference as a Power Conf. Who cares about round robin and everyone plays everyone...so you ant to be unique jist to be unique but jeapordize Isu being in a major conf?

UCONN brings the New York TV market just like Northwestern is Chicago's Big Ten team.

Edit: actually even that is being generous. UCONN brings the New York TV market just like Northern Illinois brings the Chicago TV market. Which is to say not at all.
 
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Obviously one of the if not the biggest problem with BYU is travel. But if you think about it, it's only one game the current schools have to do that for... And every other year. If they are Ok with that, you'd think we could handle it too.

The travel out there isn't that bad when you realize you're flying into Salt Lake City which has a good sized airport.
 

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UCONN brings the New York TV market just like Northwestern is Chicago's Big Ten team.

Edit: actually even that is being generous. UCONN brings the New York TV market just like Northern Illinois brings the Chicago TV market. Which is to say not at all.

But... Northwestern IS Chicago's Big Ten team.
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The travel out there isn't that bad when you realize you're flying into Salt Lake City which has a good sized airport.

We won't take BYU. The Big 12 does NOT recognize BYU as a P5 Opponent....though they are an Independent. We won't take them football only. They won't play on Sundays, which is huge for the minor sports. If we are going to fly we will be more likely to take UCONN which gives WVU an opponent in the same time zone. Doubt that we go back west and stretch things to 3 time zones.

Doubt that the ACC implodes. Just won't happen IMO. So you are likely left with choices from the AAC. Take your pick from those and you are left with Cinci, UCONN, Memphis.

Cinci is probably a lock. And when you take Cinci, you have decided the direction you will go.....which is East. Now do you take Memphis.....or UCONN. Both would jump at the chance.

In any case you would have a North Division of the 2 Kansas schools, Iowa State, WVU and the 2 new schools in one division. South Division would be 4 Texas schools and 2 Oklahoma schools.

If we have learned anything, it is that having a weak division really means nothing when it comes to the CFP. It is entirely possible that from the North Division a team will be in the Championship game that could be undefeated or only have 1 loss and maybe 2 losses. And with that kind of record they will be rated. That is the reality and the absurdity of the CFP. Having a team like a UCONN in football doesn't really hurt. Look at Rutgers of the B1G.

UCF has also been talked about as a possibility.
 

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UCONN brings the New York TV market just like Northwestern is Chicago's Big Ten team.

Edit: actually even that is being generous. UCONN brings the New York TV market just like Northern Illinois brings the Chicago TV market. Which is to say not at all.

Actually you would be surprised with how many media members in Chicago do their best to pump NW up.
 

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Travel would be an issue, but it wouldn't be the primary concern with adding BYU.

Biggest thing is that they are a complete pain in the arse......which is why the Pac 12 did not take them. They took UTAH.
 

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If the conference moves East and just Northeast, I would take Temple over UConn. Their student population is right at that of ISU, they play in Lincoln Financial (63k seats) and they are closer (not by a lot, but some) to WVU and Cincy than UConn...and the UConn fans are arses.

Cue Bill Cosby jokes ....now
 

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If the conference moves East and just Northeast, I would take Temple over UConn. Their student population is right at that of ISU, they play in Lincoln Financial (63k seats) and they are closer (not by a lot, but some) to WVU and Cincy than UConn...and the UConn fans are arses.

Cue Bill Cosby jokes ....now

UCONN at least is a basketball power and has some name recognition from the many National Championships they have won in basketball. No question that Big 12 Basketball would be strengthened even more. And when you are launching a league TV network then basketball will be a consideration.

Two Divisions. The South Division will be very similar to the old Big 12 South in that there will be 4 Texas schools and 2 Oklahoma schools in that division. The North Division will consist of the old Big 12 North teams of the 2 Kansas schools and Iowa State. Also West Virginia. Add in Cincinatti. Probably UCONN. Louisville and Pitt would have been so much better. But that is a done deal.

Big 12 is at a crossroads. It seems that Texas is willing to let the LongHorn Network go and allow a Big 12 Network to go forward. Expansion would be good for Iowa State IMO. Big 12 would once again have a CCG with 2 Divisions. I do not like the idea of a CCG without any divisions. That is just stupid IMO.

Oklahoma obviously wants this and Texas is willing to go along with it. No one is going to leave a P5 Conference to join the Big 12. It just is not going to happen. And the road to expansion leads East. Not West.
 

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UCONN brings the New York TV market just like Northwestern is Chicago's Big Ten team.

Edit: actually even that is being generous. UCONN brings the New York TV market just like Northern Illinois brings the Chicago TV market. Which is to say not at all.

Dude you have no clue what you are talking about. Uconn only joins this conference if big 12 is set to roll the LHN into a conf network and if so then Uconn will be first team taken. Why do u think the BIG took Rutgers? It's called having a team in your conf in the largest cable subscriber audience in the country. If the big 12 expands a network will be created you can be assured that.
 

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UCONN at least is a basketball power and has some name recognition from the many National Championships they have won in basketball. No question that Big 12 Basketball would be strengthened even more. And when you are launching a league TV network then basketball will be a consideration.

Two Divisions. The South Division will be very similar to the old Big 12 South in that there will be 4 Texas schools and 2 Oklahoma schools in that division. The North Division will consist of the old Big 12 North teams of the 2 Kansas schools and Iowa State. Also West Virginia. Add in Cincinatti. Probably UCONN. Louisville and Pitt would have been so much better. But that is a done deal.

Big 12 is at a crossroads. It seems that Texas is willing to let the LongHorn Network go and allow a Big 12 Network to go forward. Expansion would be good for Iowa State IMO. Big 12 would once again have a CCG with 2 Divisions. I do not like the idea of a CCG without any divisions. That is just stupid IMO.

Oklahoma obviously wants this and Texas is willing to go along with it. No one is going to leave a P5 Conference to join the Big 12. It just is not going to happen. And the road to expansion leads East. Not West.

You get it stormin..its a lot about fball but when it comes to a conf network Uconn bball both men's and women's have a big NYC draw.
 

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UCONN brings the New York TV market just like Northwestern is Chicago's Big Ten team. Edit: actually even that is being generous. UCONN brings the New York TV market just like Northern Illinois brings the Chicago TV market. Which is to say not at all.
Not saying they would be a good fit ... but I lived in NYC for 10 years and UCONN does get a lot of local media coverage there. At least they did when I was there.
 

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You get it stormin..its a lot about fball but when it comes to a conf network Uconn bball both men's and women's have a big NYC draw.

We all get it, but there are variables other than just largest viewership. Temple is much stronger in football, which drives realignment, and has a strong basketball team as well. They are in the Philly area which is the 4th largest television market, play in a stadium that is 28k seats larger than UConns, a larger student body by about 8k students and are a little bit closer to the Big 12s current teams (not by much, but some). Do you really think the conference is worried more about becoming even stronger in basketball or bringing in football teams with large stadiums in large market areas?

UConn has a strong presence as far as media representation in NYC, but to those that have not lived there, NYC is pro sports ...99% pro sports area. The population is from everywhere, so their allegiances lie everywhere. Philly is a Philly sports city period. The fans hate Pitt because of the city its in, and are meh on Penn State. Temple would immediately become a rival for WVU and Cincy if they came in..and probably Iowa State because of the recruiting area that Campbell focuses on.
 

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I dream of a midwest conference with similar cultures and expectations. A conference with easy travel in a part of the country we're all familiar with. Maybe like a line from iowa south to Texas.