Will Prohm ever win a championship?
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Then I think your expectations are a little unrealistic. Would I love to see them win a Big 12 championship? Of course. But everything has to come together for that to happen. Heck, the only coach that's won one since I started following them 40 years ago is Eustachy, yet they have had a lot of good coaches over that period...Orr, Floyd, Hoiberg, and IMO, Prohm.
You are right. The other teams are filled with terrible players.
******** about conference road wins now...yeah, I'm sure you were bound and determined to give Prohm a fair shake when he was hired...
Are you going to give him or the team credit for winning at Texas Tech, K-State, or even Ole Miss?
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Why are you constantly on the attack? You don't want the team to have more success and get better? You dont want coaches or players being held accountable for lack of effort? You are content and don't want to win conference championships? I really have no idea what your goal is on here.
I'll be the first to admit I can be a ****, along with a bunch of other people, but we all have the same passion, if we didn't care so much we wouldnt feel the need to get out frustrations on this board.
Only one ISU coach has won a conference title the last 50 years. Why is Prohm held to such a high bar compared to other ISU coaches? This team will get 10 conference wins at the least, starting 2 freshmen and 2 sophs in this top 7. How many ISU teams have done that. Before the season people would be happy being a bubble team, now its conference title or bust, I guess. The most disappointing part of this team the last 2 weeks have been the play of the seniors.
Just want to add that I think Shaka is a far better coach than Prohm.
Just think if there would have been message boards back when Johnny Orr was coaching. They couldn't win a road game in or out of conference to save their ass. The defense was always atrocious too.
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Wow.
This is a stupid post, and you should feel stupid for writing it, much less thinking it.
What exactly do you think happens to the program if Prohm gets canned? It's quite likely, IMO, that Wiggington goes pro (which could happen anyway), but I think Haliburton and THT transfer out, and we lose most, if not all, of our incoming recruiting class. That puts us at the bottom of the Big 12, starting over from square one.
You obviously hate Prohm and think he sucks, but is it too much to ask that you actually think before you post?
I am saying that we should not settle. Sounds like we are somewhere in the middle. Point is, don't think Prohm can maximize this program.
I'm not at the point of saying 'prohm should be fired', at least not this year, but its funny how some of the same characters who defended McDermott to the last minute are out here refusing to tolerate any criticism of Prohm whatsoever.
Its this kind of bitchass 'we can only expect so much, we're iowa state' thinking engrained in a segment of our fanbase that explains why reaching the next level never happens.
Its this kind of bitchass 'we can only expect so much, we're iowa state' thinking engrained in a segment of our fanbase that explains why reaching the next level never happens.
You could argue the Royce team underachieved (8 seed) as well as the team the year after that (10 seed).
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I reject your premise even though your premise is very unclear.
Really fail to see the meaning/ purpose/ relevance of this thread.
Do you mean Larry is the only good coach ISU has had in your eyes in the last 70 years? Because he is the only one in the last 70 years to win a reg season conf championship. Clearly you felt other coaches (Orr, Floyd, Fred...) have been good? But maybe you felt all the others were bad too?
Do you mean that Prohm is a failure because he missed a chance to win the Reg season title this year? It was a missed opportunity, but there is still a ton to play for this year. Also hard to call him a failure when he has already won a Big 12 Conf Tourney Champ and brought in a great recruiting class to get the Program back on track.
Again, really don't understand this thread at all.
What does this have to with him when he was hired? You seem to be insulting me in order to make your point. Im just calling it like i see it. A team that looks like they have inferior game plans and rely on hot shooting to win games.
Texas Tech Kstate and Ole Miss were great early road wins. Very very good wins. Texas Tech probably the best win we've had. Because that was a game that didnt rely on a couple players playing out of their mind in order to win. We beat ole miss and kstate because we couldnt miss. But we need to have a gameplan for when we arent shooting lights out and we havent seen that.
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It's very quite simple, when you beat the 3 best teams in the conference, when Kansas is depleted, West Virginia is a dumpster fire, and you have the most talent in the league, it changes expectations a little bit.
