The point is you (not you specifically) can't say "oh we won because XXXX hit some lucky shots and it's not on the coach" and then say "oh we lost because the coach sucks and YYYY for the opponent made a lucky shot to beat us".
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The point is you (not you specifically) can't say "oh we won because XXXX hit some lucky shots and it's not on the coach" and then say "oh we lost because the coach sucks and YYYY for the opponent made a lucky shot to beat us".
Tim Floyd was a .500 coach in conference and Larry in 5 years finished 9th, 1st, 1st, 10th and 9th. Yeah, each had a couple great years of basketball but overall they were pretty average.
Do you think CFH would be getting the same treatment if he was 7-6 and lost to Florida AM? I sure as hell think so.
I think he'd have detractors but I don't think people would be calling for his firing asap
Fred wishes he was 7-6 this season! Lol
So who in your opinion by the numbers was the best coach in Iowa State basketball history?
Yes, if the coach was successfully able plan and coach his players the final 8 seconds the narrative would be a lot different.
I don’t speak on their behalf. TCU is a bad team though so the loss in general is a bummer.
You might want to check back to this website on 12-31-2011. People were definitely worried where this thing was going, but it was only 1.5 years in.
Im not gonna pose for you anymore if you’re gonna keep making fun of me
While I agree on 'dont be a jackass' I would also note that jackassery isn't limited to those that are critical. Cat was probably the worst example of that (thanks to whoever dropped that banhammer) but there exists a segment that tolerates nothing but sunshine and rainbows and jump all over anyone who doesn't toe that line.
until Fred left us high and dry, he could have pooped at mid court and we'd have made scratch and sniff shirts made to commemorate it...he was in a different league...until he left us. (cue The Crying Game)
Well it depends on what numbers you look at.
A case could be made for Larry because of the Elite 8, but his over all numbers with 2 9th place and 1 10th place finish is 5 years are not a good look.
A case could be made for Fred if you look at win percentage and resurrection of excitement for ISU basketball.
A case could be made for Floyd if you look at win percentage and consistency, but the 11th place in his final year is a black eye.
Either way it's not roses and unicorns of basketball history that some believe.
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worried yes, but calling for his immediate firing? The 2 things are waaaayyyyy different.
I'm older than most folks. But winning the conference tournament 'anytime' would give quite a buffer to the coach. But, now as expectations are high, the negativity bar has been raised quite a bit. I'm still quite happy to be 'patient' as Prohm has already demonstrated achieving business milestones.
Again, name some names.
We'll tolerate criticisms -- as long as they are reasonable.
"Wigginton was mismanaged," for instance, is not a reasonable one.
