You added two too many horses......
I actually have eight horses in the race, but the bottom five (maybe seven) are contenders in name only, and their early odds are crap.
You added two too many horses......
The buyout doesn’t matter, donors have agreed to pay it. Keeping him is less income next year than replacing him would be.
ISU is a good job with a winning traditional and strong fan support. Those are positives that ISU can promote to a new coach.
IMO there are scenarios where ISU can attract a P5 coach and that would be:
Here are some guys who might fit some of the above criteria:
- ISU is willing to pay the new coach between $3.5-$4.0M AND willing to pay the new coaches buyout.
- The current P5 coach views ISU as better job security than current job. For instance ISU is willing to provide a 4-5 year guaranteed contract and his current school is not eager to make a long-term commitment (aka just willing to do 1 year renewals).
- The coach views ISU as a better opportunity to win.
- Coach has been at his current school for an extended period of time, but winning has leveled off. Also the coaches appeal is starting to wane on the fan base. For example, during Roy Williams final years at KU, there were rumblings by the KU fanbase questioning his ability to get KU to Elite 8's and beyond.
But as mentioned above, things can get complicated. They have to like the salary ISU is offering, ISU must be willing to pay any buyout, the coach has to be willing to uplift their family and they have to view ISU as a better long-term opportunity to win.
- Bobby Hurley - ASU
- Thad Boyle - CU
- Wayne Trickle - Oregon St
- Chris Collins - Northwestern
- Mark Turgeon - Maryland
- Ben Howland - Miss St
- Frank Martin - So. Car
IMO it is much easier to hire a P5 assistant or a head coach from MVC, MWC, Big East or Mid American.
We got Johnny from Michigan.
I would rather have a solid assistant coach with p5 experience over the mid major crapshoot.
Do you have any specific names in mind?
We got Johnny from Michigan.
I would rather have a solid assistant coach with p5 experience over the mid major crapshoot.
Probably the five big 10 regular season conference championships and the two final 4s. Also won the big 10 tournament four times.Johnny was the 9th highest paid coach in the big 10. Jim Dutcher was his assistant, and made more than Johnny did from his first day at Minnesota. He went from 33K/yr total compensation, to 45K/ yr base, plus another 50+ in off the court income.
I can’t imagine it would be anyone but TJ, but if he decides he’s happy in Vegas, it will be someone with head coaching experience.
also, can anyone explain the fascination with Thad Matta? I mean he was a good coach, but I don’t think anyone ever thought of him as elite
Probably the five big 10 regular season conference championships and the two final 4s. Also won the big 10 tournament four times.
.......also, can anyone explain the fascination with Thad Matta? I mean he was a good coach, but I don’t think anyone ever thought of him as elite
I don't know if we are in the running for an 'elite' Chris Beard type coach, but Matta is certainly 'good', and available. Who knows what he wants to do?
Matta won at Butler, has won four Big10 titles, been to two FinalFours. He's a proven winner.
The chances of Matta being the next Cyclone coach are low ($$$), but I'd take him over any of the guys mentioned on CF.
No clue. You asked if people thought of him as elite. I would say multiple final 4s and 5 regular season conference titles in a p6 would make someone elite.So is he healthy, and able to handle the rigors of the job 5 years since he stepped down to health reasons?
No clue. You asked if people thought of him as elite. I would say multiple final 4s and 5 regular season conference titles in a p6 would make someone elite.
Is chris beard elite? He has won way less than matta. Beard has 1 final 4. A regular season conference win in the big 12, 1 in the sun belt, and one conference tournament championship in the sunbelt.
So is he healthy, and able to handle the rigors of the job 5 years since he stepped down to health reasons?
Health issues make Matta unrealistic for availability. The attraction of his resume, though, is understandable.
Matta might fall into a sort of Beilein category. ISU isn't likely to land proven coaches like that. Our challenge is to find a current version of 'That Type of Eventual P5 Coach."
We got Johnny from Michigan.
I would rather have a solid assistant coach with p5 experience over the mid major crapshoot.
I mean, if he’s looking for a return to the sidelines, Iowa State would make sense for him. No real pressure to win right away, and he can groom his successor.
he would definitely be more likely than Beilein.
Pollard would have to do his dd, but I think Jerome Tang is an interesting prospect.Do you have any specific names in mind?
That would be one more than we have had in the last 75 years.No clue. You asked if people thought of him as elite. I would say multiple final 4s and 5 regular season conference titles in a p6 would make someone elite.
Is chris beard elite? He has won way less than matta. Beard has 1 final 4. A regular season conference win in the big 12, 1 in the sun belt, and one conference tournament championship in the sunbelt.