Anyone else hearing that JP has already decided Prohm is coming back?

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Anyone else get really mad this weekend watching Oats and Underwood coach this weekend? More so Oats.
Funny thing is on this board during recruitment of THT many on this board who are “coaching “ search experts were say he was a bad hire and they would never win
 

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Haha, I have little doubt you would make that mistake. Most are more financially savvy.

Most would take less, how much less is the question, but generally related to the pay of the job they would land post-buyout and the wealth/happiness context. If you have wealth and aren’t happy, giving up the amount you’d make at your new, more pleasant job is a an easy “yes”. Add in needing to start the rebuild of your stock and it’s an even easier decision.

The answer to how much less is not enough to matter. The variables are time and hassle...i.e. how much would he need to spend on legal representation to settle and how long was it going to take. The only reason for Prohm to negotiate would be to get better terms by restructuring the buyout and avoid dragging things out if there were some clause that could seriously reduce the amount.

I can tell you that after going 0-18, his earning potential at the next stop is going to be minimal. Like...less than 6 figures minimal. And with the lack of prospects that kind of performance is going to provide, he or anyone else would be more than happy to endure another season like this one for an additional $2M. It's only a year and he's never going to make that kind of money ever again.

As an example, look what happened to Todd Lickliter. He spent years in the wilderness. Finally landed a gig being an NBA scout and recently stumbled his way into the coaching job at Evansville. So in reality, we're only talking about $50-100k, which on a $5M buyout is nothing.
 

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I’m hearing former Linn Mar standout who started his collegiate career playing for Mark Few at Gonzaga and then transferring to Creighton where he played under Greg McDermott and played with NPOY Doug McDermott and is currently the head coach of the OKC Thunder G League team, the OKC Blue, Grant Gibbs, is a potential candidate to replace Prohm.
Would be a home run hire, IMO. He’s very well respected within the NBA coaching circuits and his basketball IQ is off the charts.
That's intriguing. He's only been coaching since 2017 and is already the head coach of a G-league team, at 31 years old. I don't know if he'd be ready for a college head coaching job, but he must be well thought of to get that gig at such a young age. Definitely fits the definition of an up and comer.

That wouldn't be much crazier than hiring Hoiberg was. Gibbs is much younger, but at least has some coaching experience. He may not have the connections Hoiberg did to form his staff though. Hard to know for sure. Someone to keep an eye on in the future if he's not a candidate now.
 

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I’m hearing former Linn Mar standout who started his collegiate career playing for Mark Few at Gonzaga and then transferring to Creighton where he played under Greg McDermott and played with NPOY Doug McDermott and is currently the head coach of the OKC Thunder G League team, the OKC Blue, Grant Gibbs, is a potential candidate to replace Prohm.
Would be a home run hire, IMO. He’s very well respected within the NBA coaching circuits and his basketball IQ is off the charts.
I have no idea who Gibbs is, or whether he is the shining star suddenly appearing over Ames like the star of Bethlehem, or whether your sources are credible, but I'm gonna go ahead and be exited and credulous about this, all the same.
Everything else I "know" about ISU basketball the past few years is just depressing.
 

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Anyone else get really mad this weekend watching Oats and Underwood ? More so Oats.

So many different ways these last few years could have gone.

Ah yes, hindsight is always 20-20. What if we had hired Todd Lickliter instead of Fred? LOL
 

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The answer to how much less is not enough to matter. The variables are time and hassle...i.e. how much would he need to spend on legal representation to settle and how long was it going to take. The only reason for Prohm to negotiate would be to get better terms by restructuring the buyout and avoid dragging things out if there were some clause that could seriously reduce the amount.

I can tell you that after going 0-18, his earning potential at the next stop is going to be minimal. Like...less than 6 figures minimal. And with the lack of prospects that kind of performance is going to provide, he or anyone else would be more than happy to endure another season like this one for an additional $2M. It's only a year and he's never going to make that kind of money ever again.

As an example, look what happened to Todd Lickliter. He spent years in the wilderness. Finally landed a gig being an NBA scout and recently stumbled his way into the coaching job at Evansville. So in reality, we're only talking about $50-100k, which on a $5M buyout is nothing.
Only if you think it’s certain Jamie would otherwise fire you and you want to be here next season. These conversations started well before he went 0-18 , so as I’ve said, it’ll be interesting to see if Prohm failed himself into more leverage.

Todd is the exception, he wasn’t a recruiter, and was largely self-imposed. John couldn’t coach just anywhere. Meanwhile an assistant with multiple NCAA tournaments as a HC and a player like Hunter will get more offers, like a few hundred thousand. That’s assuming he even wants to coach next year. He may like the thought of getting paid to be a dad.
 

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That's intriguing. He's only been coaching since 2017 and is already the head coach of a G-league team, at 31 years old. I don't know if he'd be ready for a college head coaching job, but he must be well thought of to get that gig at such a young age. Definitely fits the definition of an up and comer.

That wouldn't be much crazier than hiring Hoiberg was. Gibbs is much younger, but at least has some coaching experience. He may not have the connections Hoiberg did to form his staff though. Hard to know for sure. Someone to keep an eye on in the future if he's not a candidate now.

Or do it now and take the risk instead of sitting here 5 years from now wishing Pollard didn't go with the 'comfortable' hire.
 

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I have no sources or inside info but if Prohm is fired ,I hope him and Campbell are not real close friends. Contracts can be bought out both ways. Campbell is a sought after coach.
This is reason enough to keep Prohm another year in my opinion if true. I'lll gladly take a crap bball team for football to stay relevant/getting into big 12 championships. Football just means more to more people.
 

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No. I have a contract that says you pay me $XX dollars if you fire me and I wouldn't take anything less. So fire me or let me coach.

I don't see how anyone doesn't get this.
I'm not exactly renowned for wanting to keep Prohm, but he deserves what he's owed in the buyout. That's how the contract we agreed upon is supposed to work.