Anyone else hearing that JP has already decided Prohm is coming back?

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Yeah that's just stupid. If I am the coach and you want to fire me, then fire me and pay my buyout. If you want me to get a new staff to keep my job I'd do that in a heart beat and continue collecting my salary.

I'd tell JP you have 2 options: 1) Fire me and pay my buyout or 2) Keep me and pay my salary.

What if JP, liking Steve, knowing Steve wants to leave, and facing budget issues says 1.) come back with a new staff and give it one last chance with a real pg on the roster 2.) or you can get paid to do whatever you whatever you want. To which Steve responds “how much”? And likely would take something other than 100% of the buyout.

Would you agree to get paid not to do your current job for 90% of your salary? If you turn it down, you work as normal? Where that percentage lands is personal, but likely goes down the more wealth you have.

Could Steve say, “bs” I know you want to fire me? Absolutely, they could play that game. But JP has a Covid budget as a genuine reason, and the fact Steve’s post-ISU earnings will only go down with another year like this and not having Hunter to sell. And then there’s the fact they’re close and Prohm cares about the program.

I do agree that Jamie could want to avoid playing hardball with his friend, but like you said in another post, donors don’t like paying buyouts ;-) Avoiding the lump sum is priority one by Jamie, but omg, Why would Steve give up TVM?!?!?
 

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What if JP, liking Steve, knowing Steve wants to leave, and facing budget issues says 1.) come back with a new staff and give it one last chance with a real pg on the roster 2.) or you can get paid to do whatever you whatever you want. To which Steve responds how much? And likely would take something other than 100% of the buyout.

Would you agree to get paid not to do your current job for 90% of your salary? If you turn it down, you work as normal? Where that percentage lands is personal, but likely goes down the more wealth you have.

Could Steve say, “bs” I know you want to fire me? Absolutely, they could play that game. But JP has a Covid budget as a genuine reason, and the fact Steve’s post-ISU earnings will only go down with another year like this and not having Hunter to sell. And then there’s the fact they’re close and Prohm cares about the program.

Avoiding the lump sum is priority one by Jamie. Why would Steve give up TVM?!?!?

nope he should of done that last year. time to move on
 

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What if JP, liking Steve, knowing Steve wants to leave, and facing budget issues says 1.) come back with a new staff and give it one last chance with a real pg on the roster 2.) or you can get paid to do whatever you whatever you want. To which Steve responds how much? And likely would take something other than 100% of the buyout.

Would you agree to get paid not to do your current job for 90% of your salary? If you turn it down, you work as normal? Where that percentage lands is personal, but likely goes down the more wealth you have.

Could Steve say, “bs” I know you want to fire me? Absolutely, they could play that game. But JP has a Covid budget as a genuine reason, and the fact Steve’s post-ISU earnings will only go down with another year like this and not having Hunter to sell. And then there’s the fact they’re close and Prohm cares about the program.

Avoiding the lump sum is priority one by Jamie, but omg, Why would Steve give up TVM?!?!?

We do have “some” leverage in that Prohm probably wants to continue coaching somewhere. We can offer a fixed LS that isn’t eroded by his future earnings at another job. In turn, Steve has more long term earning potential and ISU pays a reduced buyout. This is very common.
 

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What if JP, liking Steve, knowing Steve wants to leave, and facing budget issues says 1.) come back with a new staff and give it one last chance with a real pg on the roster 2.) or you can get paid to do whatever you whatever you want. To which Steve responds “how much”? And likely would take something other than 100% of the buyout.

Would you agree to get paid not to do your current job for 90% of your salary? If you turn it down, you work as normal? Where that percentage lands is personal, but likely goes down the more wealth you have.

Could Steve say, “bs” I know you want to fire me? Absolutely, they could play that game. But JP has a Covid budget as a genuine reason, and the fact Steve’s post-ISU earnings will only go down with another year like this and not having Hunter to sell. And then there’s the fact they’re close and Prohm cares about the program.

I do agree that Jamie could want to avoid playing hardball with his friend, but like you said in another post, donors don’t like paying buyouts ;-) Avoiding the lump sum is priority one by Jamie, but omg, Why would Steve give up TVM?!?!?

No. I have a contract that says you pay me $XX dollars if you fire me and I wouldn't take anything less. So fire me or let me coach.
 

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We do have “some” leverage in that Prohm probably wants to continue coaching somewhere. We can offer a fixed LS that isn’t eroded by his future earnings at another job. In turn, Steve has more long term earning potential and ISU pays a reduced buyout. This is very common.
He’s likely not done. Will his post-Iowa St career start in a better place leaving now, potentially with a player or two, or after coaching next season with a deleted, young roster? There’s also the personal side of this, in which someone in a decent wealth situation may see value in giving up some net earnings now for improved quality of life. He’s just another coach, not Gary Andersen, but Jamie should be able to get some negotiated relief.

One would think they’ve had a tentative agreement for weeks. I could see Prohm having second thoughts based on how horrible the year finished. At that point it gets interesting. Imo Jamie would fold.
 

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I’m hearing former Linn Mar standout who started his collegiate career playing for Mark Few at Gonzaga and then transferring to Creighton where he played under Greg McDermott and played with NPOY Doug McDermott and is currently the head coach of the OKC Thunder G League team, the OKC Blue, Grant Gibbs, is a potential candidate to replace Prohm.
Would be a home run hire, IMO. He’s very well respected within the NBA coaching circuits and his basketball IQ is off the charts.
 

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No. I have a contract that says you pay me $XX dollars if you fire me and I wouldn't take anything less. So fire me or let me coach.
Haha, I have little doubt you would make that mistake. Most are more financially savvy.

Most would take less, how much less is the question, but generally related to the pay of the job they would land post-buyout and the wealth/happiness context. If you have wealth and aren’t happy, giving up the amount you’d make at your new, more pleasant job is a an easy “yes”. Add in needing to start the rebuild of your stock and it’s an even easier decision.
 

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I’m hearing former Linn Mar standout who started his collegiate career playing for Mark Few at Gonzaga and then transferring to Creighton where he played under Greg McDermott and played with NPOY Doug McDermott and is currently the head coach of the OKC Thunder G League team, the OKC Blue, Grant Gibbs, is a potential candidate to replace Prohm.
Would be a home run hire, IMO. He’s very well respected within the NBA coaching circuits and his basketball IQ is off the charts.

We have different definitions of Home Run Hire
 
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I’m hearing former Linn Mar standout who started his collegiate career playing for Mark Few at Gonzaga and then transferring to Creighton where he played under Greg McDermott and played with NPOY Doug McDermott and is currently the head coach of the OKC Thunder G League team, the OKC Blue, Grant Gibbs, is a potential candidate to replace Prohm.
Would be a home run hire, IMO. He’s very well respected within the NBA coaching circuits and his basketball IQ is off the charts.

But does he have enough data to scrutinize for people to melt down for the next 5-6 months? /S

Never heard of him but maybe someone fresh to everyone would be good.
 

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I’m hearing former Linn Mar standout who started his collegiate career playing for Mark Few at Gonzaga and then transferring to Creighton where he played under Greg McDermott and played with NPOY Doug McDermott and is currently the head coach of the OKC Thunder G League team, the OKC Blue, Grant Gibbs, is a potential candidate to replace Prohm.
Would be a home run hire, IMO. He’s very well respected within the NBA coaching circuits and his basketball IQ is off the charts.

I remember how we recruited him. Had no idea he moved up the coaching ranks so fast. That’s an out of the box idea, but then again so was hiring Hoiberg.
 
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Any one thinking that Fred is a possibility is smoking some good weed. Fred’s buyout to come here would be close to $10 million. Then add in the $3.5 million or so salary plus the $500k retention bonuses. We have a buyout for Prohm around $5.3 million. And there is absolutely No Guarantee that Fred would be successful again. All of the Coaching Candidates have some elements of risk. But Fred’s Price Tag is way too much.

even without a huge price tag, it wasn't happening
 

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So I am curious and I don’t mean this as a dig on gunnerclone. It is honest question, reading through this thread there is a sense from him and others that he has inside info. Again no idea if true or not. I figure you judge credibility on history. So what has he said in past that he is hearing been true? Does he have history of accurate insights or is he hot air?
 

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So I am curious and I don’t mean this as a dig on gunnerclone. It is honest question, reading through this thread there is a sense from him and others that he has inside info. Again no idea if true or not. I figure you judge credibility on history. So what has he said in past that he is hearing been true? Does he have history of accurate insights or is he hot air?

Most of his threads are strictly about getting a rise out of people
 

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We do have “some” leverage in that Prohm probably wants to continue coaching somewhere. We can offer a fixed LS that isn’t eroded by his future earnings at another job. In turn, Steve has more long term earning potential and ISU pays a reduced buyout. This is very common.

what is a fixed LS ?