Unless other teams leave and the grant of rights is gone because there is no conference
COLUMN: What happens to Iowa State if the Big 12 implodes?
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Unless other teams leave and the grant of rights is gone because there is no conference
Exactly. Texas and Oklahoma have 80 million reasons each to try and find homes for at least of few of the Big 12 schools.
I'd like to see ISU and KU to Big 10, now Big-16
T-Tech, OSU, TCU and KSU to Pac 12, now Pac-16
I'd love to see Texas and OU not get voted into the SEC.
And they can rot in hell, along with Baylor for obvious reasons.
T-Tech, OSU, TCU and KSU to Pac 12, now Pac-16
I'd love to see Texas and OU not get voted into the SEC.
And they can rot in hell, along with Baylor for obvious reasons.
for goodness sake what is it with you and Missouri? Jesus.
A contract is only enforceable to the point which it's monetarily beneficial for the affected party to fight it.
In theory, ESPN has an ~$750MM to $1B liability to the Big12 in contractual TV payouts over the next 4 years. UT/OU have a few years of TV revenue loss.
To minimize that liability, I'm wondering if the TV execs (who seem to have unlimited power to dicatate these moves) are actively facilitating behind the scenes. Ie. Pushing to 4 16-team super leagues sooner rather than later. They can minimize the short term liability and set the new world order up sooner. Providing revenue neutral outcomes to BIG, PAC12, and ACC is a must.
I hope we end up fine, but I'm not so sure. I do think we are in better position than KSU, Tech, Baylor, and TCU though. WVU, KU, & OSU are probably the most valuable "brands" amongst the 8.
I wouldn't mind holding at 8 (although musical chairs is on right now), retaining P5 status, and essentially getting an auto-bid to the 12-team playoff. Then, the Big12 could hold ESPN hostage for the massive payout and work with Amazon or Youtube to create a unique platform. I'm guessing that was Bowlsby's pitch to the ADs/Presidents last night.
I also have a sneaking suspicsion that Bowlsby is in on it with ESPN since he's approaching retirement and has no traditional ties to the Big12 other than his massive paycheck. Don't be surprised if he lands a cush advisory role with ABC/ESPN in approximtely 12 months.
To minimize that liability, I'm wondering if the TV execs (who seem to have unlimited power to dicatate these moves) are actively facilitating behind the scenes. Ie. Pushing to 4 16-team super leagues sooner rather than later. They can minimize the short term liability and set the new world order up sooner. Providing revenue neutral outcomes to BIG, PAC12, and ACC is a must.
I hope we end up fine, but I'm not so sure. I do think we are in better position than KSU, Tech, Baylor, and TCU though. WVU, KU, & OSU are probably the most valuable "brands" amongst the 8.
I wouldn't mind holding at 8 (although musical chairs is on right now), retaining P5 status, and essentially getting an auto-bid to the 12-team playoff. Then, the Big12 could hold ESPN hostage for the massive payout and work with Amazon or Youtube to create a unique platform. I'm guessing that was Bowlsby's pitch to the ADs/Presidents last night.
I also have a sneaking suspicsion that Bowlsby is in on it with ESPN since he's approaching retirement and has no traditional ties to the Big12 other than his massive paycheck. Don't be surprised if he lands a cush advisory role with ABC/ESPN in approximtely 12 months.
So you’re saying if the other 8 schools want to stay together they are just going to sit idly by and let Texas and OU off the hook?
And its really ******* beneficial for the remaining 8 teams to fight it. 150m for 8 schools can pay a lot of lawyer bills.
I'm saying that with a membership change that ESPN and FOX get to re-open the contract and without those two the rights fees are going to be dramatically less (if the other 8 choose to stay together) and faced with a reduced payout anyway it doesn't make any sense to funnel a bunch of money to lawyers.
I think it's a completely moot point anyway because enough schools will have re-grouped and found a new home by then and there won't be Big 12 (at least as we know it now) to even have granted rights to.
Im still trying to figure out Texas and OU's plan here. They have obviously looked at all the options. I know they have money but we're talking $100 million plus each, even at Texas that is big money.
They are really banking on the other teams being forced to go elsewhere, which nullifies the GOR. Think its that simple.
If for somehow you let them leave this year, everyone signs to go to other conferences after 24/25... then you stick those two with the bill (not legal advice).
I would love thisI'd like to see ISU and KU to Big 10, now Big-16
T-Tech, OSU, TCU and KSU to Pac 12, now Pac-16
I'd love to see Texas and OU not get voted into the SEC.
And they can rot in hell, along with Baylor for obvious reasons.
A Big 16(with KU and ISU) is essentially two Big 8s. How ironic and how great for ISU. A Big 10 West of Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa State, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois and Northwestern would be an awesome 8 team league.
Play the 7 teams in your division, 4 from the other division and then the Champions Weekend that the Big Ten is keeping (1v1, 2v2, etc). Get rid of all non-conference games and everyone makes a postseason/bowl game.
Perfect set up. Get it done.
Perfect set up. Get it done.
Is that true? Will there not be enough teams left from the original GOR to maintain the existing contract?
I mean Texas and OU are gone. Figure West Virginia and Oklahoma State to the ACC and, hopefully, ISU and KU to the Big Ten.
What are TT, TCU, Baylor and KSU going to do about it?
That would be silly. You play 3 non-cons, 7 division teams and two rotating cross-overs. Division champions meet in the championship game.
Why would OSU go to the ACC? I think ISU has a legit shot at the Big 10 but if not we're going to become the Pac East. Utah and Colorado join us. If WVU doesn't make the cut via geography then Boise State replaces them. Should be BYU but we all know how the left coasters are. Nice setup for 2 non cons and a cross over and then the 9 division games.
We'll agree to disagree there. With the money that FOX is going to pay the Big Ten, they're going to want 100% of the inventory and marquee games every week. Plus, the Big Ten (and SEC) have no incentive to share their fortunes with anyone else. Plus, if you only do two crossovers you'll go 6 years without seeing teams in your own league.
Would you rather have SEMO, Kent State and UNLV as three of your games or Michigan State, Purdue and Maryland?
